Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-07-07 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 12:55 +0200, Philipp Wendler wrote: > But the point is, it behaves similarly for phone calls and for IM (the > latter also lead to vibration and screen message). >From my personal use of the phone, I don't see how this would be desirable. For example, I routinely set the Blac

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-07-07 Thread Philipp Wendler
Hi, Am 07.07.2010 10:43, schrieb Mark Shuttleworth: > On 06/07/10 08:49, Philipp Wendler wrote: >> Am 06.07.2010 08:41, schrieb Mark Shuttleworth: >> >>> Interesting questions. My gut feel would be: >>> >>> - incoming IM notifications would be suppressed >>> - incoming calls would be displaye

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-07-07 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 06/07/10 08:49, Philipp Wendler wrote: > Hi, > > Am 06.07.2010 08:41, schrieb Mark Shuttleworth: > >> Interesting questions. My gut feel would be: >> >> - incoming IM notifications would be suppressed >> - incoming calls would be displayed >> > Why the latter? When I put my cellphone i

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-07-06 Thread Philipp Wendler
Hi, Am 06.07.2010 08:41, schrieb Mark Shuttleworth: > Interesting questions. My gut feel would be: > > - incoming IM notifications would be suppressed > - incoming calls would be displayed Why the latter? When I put my cellphone in DND (or silence) mode, nothing is signaled: no calls, no SMS,

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-07-05 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 06/07/10 02:09, Frederik Nnaji wrote: > Or will it have effect for social communication also? > How about incoming voice and video calls? > Do Not Disturb should be a system-exlusive mode? Interesting questions. My gut feel would be: - incoming IM notifications would be suppressed - incoming

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-07-05 Thread Frederik Nnaji
Hi there ;) On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 15:14, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > Do-not-disturb did come up in our latest review of thinking for 11.04 > design work, so please ask MPT for a pointer to the (placeholder) spec > where it should emerge. I would guess it would be a me-menu-2.0 type > spec name.

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-06-30 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Shuttleworth wrote on 23/06/10 14:14: >... > Do-not-disturb did come up in our latest review of thinking for 11.04 > design work, so please ask MPT for a pointer to the (placeholder) spec > where it should emerge. I would guess it would be a me-me

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-06-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 18/06/10 13:18, Frederik Nnaji wrote: > On 2010-06-18, Vishnoo wrote: > >> On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 23:34 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: >> >>> On 31/03/10 18:51, Jim Rorie wrote: >>> From a bigger picture frame of reference, I was mulling a global "do no disturb" state.

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-06-18 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On 2010-06-18, Vishnoo wrote: > On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 23:34 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: >> On 31/03/10 18:51, Jim Rorie wrote: >> > From a bigger picture frame of reference, I was mulling a global "do >> > no disturb" state. This would turn off desktop notifications and other >> > intrusions.

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-06-18 Thread Vishnoo
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 23:34 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > On 31/03/10 18:51, Jim Rorie wrote: > > From a bigger picture frame of reference, I was mulling a global "do > > no disturb" state. This would turn off desktop notifications and other > > intrusions. > > Do-Not-Disturb should *definitel

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-03-31 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 31/03/10 18:51, Jim Rorie wrote: > From a bigger picture frame of reference, I was mulling a global "do > no disturb" state. This would turn off desktop notifications and other > intrusions. Do-Not-Disturb should *definitely* be in the spec for 10.10. Please do review them post-UDS and raise a

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-03-31 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 31/03/10 17:14, Remco wrote: > Plus, I think we can simplify this interface. Is it really important > to know which of those applications is running right now? What are the > use cases for knowing which of the messaging applications is running? This is one of the items that comes up often with

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-03-31 Thread Alex Launi
I think the busy state is a good one for this case, busy means "I'm working- don't interrupt me unless it's urgent" so while you'd still be online via empathy, there would be no notification it would just silently go into the messaging menu until you are no longer busy and can receive the message

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-03-31 Thread Jim Rorie
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 13:23 -0400, Alex Launi wrote: > > I'm sure I missed some cases, and empirical results will find places > that need tweaking, but I think it's a decent start to a higher level > of presence integration into the desktop >From a bigger picture frame of reference, I was mullin

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-03-31 Thread Alex Launi
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Conscious User wrote: > There's an important difference, though: "the app is running" is info > directed at *you*, while "you are available/busy/away/offline" is info > directed at *the world*. > > That said, I do find the whole unification proposal by Remco qui

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-03-31 Thread Conscious User
Le mercredi 31 mars 2010 à 12:31 -0400, Alex Launi a écrit : > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Conscious User > wrote: > The problem is that everything you said above does not apply > to > anything other than IM, at least not for the moment. There's > no >

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-03-31 Thread Conscious User
> There is one problem with the 'playing arrow', in that it conceptually > only makes sense to play one thing at a time. An arrow gives me a > strong impression of a single item that is selected and is going > through some sequence right now. For example, in the Totem playlist an > arrow means: "t

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-03-31 Thread Remco
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 16:42, Conscious User wrote: > > Dani, though I agree that consistency is important, you should keep in > mind that the two concepts involved here are semantically different. In > the messaging menu the arrow means "running" while in the me menu the > point means "selected"

Re: [Ayatana] mail indicator not consistency

2010-03-31 Thread Conscious User
Dani, though I agree that consistency is important, you should keep in mind that the two concepts involved here are semantically different. In the messaging menu the arrow means "running" while in the me menu the point means "selected". The most important difference between the two is that *more