Re: [Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-10-01 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 18:06, Jeremy Nickurak wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 03:00, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > >> >> 1. I want to leave home/work/wherever, and log out / shut down / take >>my USB key with me. Has the download/copy/whatever finished yet? >>That doesn't require "persis

Re: [Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-10-01 Thread Jeremy Nickurak
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 03:00, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > > 1. I want to leave home/work/wherever, and log out / shut down / take >my USB key with me. Has the download/copy/whatever finished yet? >That doesn't require "persistent awareness"; it requires the OS to >tell me, when I tr

Re: [Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-09-30 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on 29/09/10 08:43: >... > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 15:34, Matthew Paul Thomas ... >> frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on >... >>> With a persistent indicator for activity or progress, we can

Re: [Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-09-29 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Hi MPT ;) On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 15:34, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on 27/09/10 10:39: > >... > > With a persistent indicator for activity or progress, we can also see, > > when the computer is idle: very importa

Re: [Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-09-28 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on 27/09/10 10:39: >... > With a persistent indicator for activity or progress, we can also see, > when the computer is idle: very important state to be aware of! >... It really isn't. Ubuntu is a multitasking OS, and ap

Re: [Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-09-27 Thread David Hamm
basically my logic is this, close button = no distractions minimize, notification. open, open. close a transfer and when it finishes it creates a notification like an event. Of course this reminds me of rhythmbox, which plays music when closed. something that I know for a fact annoys Windows inco

Re: [Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-09-27 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 18:29, Dylan McCall wrote: > This presents a nice opportunity to eliminate a lot of duplicated effort. > well put ;) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https:

Re: [Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-09-27 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 17:56, David Hamm wrote: > "With a persistent indicator for activity or progress, we can also see, > when the computer is idle: very important state to be aware of!" > > So if i'm downloading something in firebox that computer is still idle > because it's not in the indica

Re: [Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-09-27 Thread David Hamm
Look at the current software center. People aren't complaining that there's no progress menu when they close it. The software center just understands - like a secretary - that you don't want to be bugged about the task at all. If I wanted, i could go talk to her. aka open the software center back u

Re: [Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-09-27 Thread Dylan McCall
Salomon Sickert worked on this area with a Summer of Code 2010 project for Gnome. Lots and lots of information in the wiki page: http://live.gnome.org/SummerOfCode2010/SalomonSickert_Tasks This presents a nice opportunity to eliminate a lot of duplicated effort. Dylan ___

Re: [Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-09-27 Thread Jan Claeys
Op maandag 27-09-2010 om 09:02 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef David Hamm: > Obviously the user wants to see what the progress is, hence a progress > bar, so why hide it in a menu. For an action that the user wants or needs to wait for, a dialog window or other widget with a visible progress bar is

Re: [Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-09-27 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Hi David, On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 18:02, David Hamm wrote: > Obviously the user wants to see what the progress is, hence a progress bar, > so why hide it in a menu. > putting it in a menu is giving it extra redundant availability, in this case in a consistent "place", accessible at all times, p

Re: [Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-09-27 Thread David Hamm
Obviously the user wants to see what the progress is, hence a progress bar, so why hide it in a menu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : htt

Re: [Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-09-27 Thread David Hamm
"With a persistent indicator for activity or progress, we can also see, when the computer is idle: very important state to be aware of!" So if i'm downloading something in firebox that computer is still idle because it's not in the indicator menu? What about 3rd party applications? "transmission

[Ayatana] persistent awareness

2010-09-27 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
hello list, examples of persistent controls, persistent indicators are the new indicator menus in our panel, me menu, messaging menu, session menu, sound menu. other examples are the network indicator, which is currently in the notification area, or the bluetooth indicator. *"persistent awarenes