[Ayatana] Unity and Menus

2012-01-20 Thread Jonathan Meek
In my spare time, I'm working on creating a traditional windowed application that will have a menubar. I find it important to integrate with Unity, leading me to an important question: What behavior is the best to adopt? As I see it, there are three options: 1. I can have windows each have

Re: [Ayatana] What to call the unity panel?

2012-01-09 Thread Jonathan Meek
Last that I've heard, the correct term is Menubar. On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Michael Terry michael.te...@canonical.comwrote: Hello! I was about to implement a part of the new System Settings spec [1] when I saw that it referred to the unity panel as the top bar. But in a past cycle,

Re: [Ayatana] Unity's Scope

2012-01-05 Thread Jonathan Meek
there should be restrictions on what users can choose to install. That would take us down a very un-free Apple like path. cheers, John * On 05/01/12 04:29, Jonathan Meek wrote: In a recent discussion on Google+ Cassidy James (of elementary fame) was asking just what defines a scope or lense on Unity

[Ayatana] Unity's Scope

2012-01-04 Thread Jonathan Meek
In a recent discussion on Google+ Cassidy James (of elementary fame) was asking just what defines a scope or lense on Unity. There is no real set guideline for what they are or should do. To me, Unity is about hooking in and searching. You should be able to search from Unity for anything (or

Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu Applications

2011-09-07 Thread Jonathan Meek
Actually, I intended something more in depth than that. I asked one of the designers and am going to attempt to begin work on a comprehensive HIG. Everything about the design needs to be thought out, not just 'integrate with this.' The problem with this undertaking is that there are so few

Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu Applications

2011-09-06 Thread Jonathan Meek
, Sep 5, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Jonathan Meek shrouded.cl...@gmail.com wrote: As things currently stand, if you want an application in Ubuntu you go to the software center and browse the myriad applications available. Of these, MANY are what I would dub 'legacy' applications (my word, don't focus too

Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu Applications

2011-09-06 Thread Jonathan Meek
for being standards-compliant? On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Jonathan Meek shrouded.cl...@gmail.com wrote: You misunderstand: I do not propose a good looks badge. I am proposing a standards compliance badge. As for your (1), I would not argue against a soft warning. As for (2

Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu Applications

2011-09-06 Thread Jonathan Meek
: On 09/06/2011 06:59 PM, Jonathan Meek wrote: Seek and you shall find. I'm not aiming this at you in particular, but the kind of mentality that your statement is indicative of. We need not base design decisions on how the community is going to react. That isn't a valid argument for or against

[Ayatana] Ubuntu Applications

2011-09-05 Thread Jonathan Meek
As things currently stand, if you want an application in Ubuntu you go to the software center and browse the myriad applications available. Of these, MANY are what I would dub 'legacy' applications (my word, don't focus too much on it). As far as I know, there is nothing that quite defines an

Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu Applications

2011-09-05 Thread Jonathan Meek
It's very possible to write a Qt app that looks and feels fully native in GNOME/Unity. And I believe Qt apps will look better outside of GNOME than GTK ones will. Also there are a lot of good apps available in KDE that may not be available elsewhere in Ubuntu (kdeedu is but one example).

[Ayatana] Oneiric Dark Toolbars/Menubar Issues

2011-07-21 Thread Jonathan Meek
I recently say the post on OMG!Ubuntu! about the possibility of dark toolbars being included for Oneiric and this sparked an interesting debate among someone I know who I asked to draft his thoughts on the issue for post to the Ayatana list for discussion. Here it is: PROBLEM: The management of

Re: [Ayatana] 11.04 Comboboxes

2011-05-06 Thread Jonathan Meek
...@canonical.comwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonathan Meek wrote on 07/04/11 03:22: ... An example: Go to Power Management preferences and click the combobox for action to take on laptop lid closing, a menu will appear and you can choose an item at your leisure. Now, go run CCSM

Re: [Ayatana] 11.04 Comboboxes

2011-05-06 Thread Jonathan Meek
Or not, it seems that is the wrong bug? On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:58 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.comwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonathan Meek wrote on 07/04/11 03:22: ... An example: Go to Power Management preferences and click the combobox for action

[Ayatana] 11.04 Comboboxes

2011-04-06 Thread Jonathan Meek
So, among the many changes for 11.04, I've noticed one particular change that irks me to no end: Comboboxes have been switched to now have arrows pointing both up and down (much as presented on Mac OS X I've been told) but are still inconsistent about click behavior. An example: Go to Power

Re: [Ayatana] Dash should be in full screen by default in desktop

2011-03-17 Thread Jonathan Meek
Unity, as of my last checking, only uses fullscreen for above 1280x800. I know this because my lapop uses 1280x720 and switched Dash to Desktop mode. I agree that it should be made available in CCSM, though. Make the option readily usable instead of hidden away. On 3/17/11, Bilal Akhtar

[Ayatana] Aero-Expo Reconciliation

2011-03-14 Thread Jonathan Meek
I've seen many calling for an aero-peek-like function to be brought into Unity. I would like to say that by and large this is completely unnecessary given that Unity's already present expo feature.* However I do see that there is room for improvement in the implementation with the addition of

Re: [Ayatana] fileless paradigm

2010-12-14 Thread Jonathan Meek
I'm not entirely sure this pertains to this particular conversation, but here is my take on it: I think that, instead of depending on users to sort their files by themselves, there should instead be a Home directory where *everything* gets put Then, when they open Nautilus (or Dash, etc.) they

Re: [Ayatana] fileless paradigm (was: File menu)

2010-11-22 Thread Jonathan Meek
.) On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 5:56 PM, frederik.nn...@gmail.com frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jonathan, On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 03:15, Jonathan Meek shrouded.cl...@gmail.comwrote: Isn't that essentially a folder though? A gathering of potentially related files (provided it was organized

Re: [Ayatana] Application Indicators improvement suggestion - optional text with icon

2010-07-08 Thread Jonathan Meek
Yes, but for the date and time indicator it is necessary to have text. You can't hope to convey the time in an icon that small. In that case, text becomes necessary to convey in the information accurately. Introducing it in other places will add clutter to the setup and start a possible branch of

Re: [Ayatana] Application Indicators improvement suggestion - optional text with icon

2010-07-08 Thread Jonathan Meek
It accurately portrays the condition... Just like how the date/time indicator accurately portrays the time, but the date is hidden away in the menu. A single click and you can find out the more in-depth information as needed. On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Mark Curtis merkin...@hotmail.com