Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hawaii, Massachusettes, or Brazil

2014-07-15 Thread Pam Santos
Thanks Hermano On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Hermano C. Pires lagoe...@hotmail.com wrote: Pam It could have something to do with emigrartion quotas or in some cases preferences and/or limit on the number of contractual emigrants from each family. Hermano

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hawaii, Massachusettes, or Brazil

2014-07-15 Thread Isabella Baltar
I really don't know Pam, I never had the opportunity to learn direct from my ancestors as they were all deceased when I was born. On my father's side I believe they moved when the Emperor moved from Lisbon to Rio de Janeiro and with him thousands of people moved from Portugal to Brazil the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Poss. new connection on the Pacheco Rezendes/Remigio line to Canada and Brasil

2014-07-15 Thread IslandRoutes
A clarification, Antonio Medeiros Cordeiro is on page 306 of Rodrigo Rodrigues work volume 1. He is #7-10 Antonio de Medeiros m. Francisca de Souza. This goes back to Rui Lopes, Goncalvo Vaz Botelho O Grande, and others. On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:37:00 AM UTC-7, IslandRoutes wrote:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hawaii, Massachusettes, or Brazil

2014-07-15 Thread luiznoia .
The following is from an Azores Government publication concerning the Hawaiian migration. The Portuguese migration to Hawaii was fueled by poor economic conditions in the mother country, and particularly in Madeira. The production and export of fine wines had been for many years the mainstay of

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hawaii, Massachusettes, or Brazil

2014-07-15 Thread Cheri Mello
Funny how the government blurb you posted differs a little from the information obtained from the plantations there. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismos Translation help

2014-07-15 Thread BOBCAMSCPW via Azores Genealogy
Hi I need help with the translation of the baptisms of Josi, which starts at the bottom of one page and goes to the next page. It is item #30 on the below page 206 and goes on to the next page 207

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismos Translation help

2014-07-15 Thread Cheri Mello
Bob C, Can you state what you can read and what you need help on? The parents names, the grandparents names, the dates? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismos Translation help

2014-07-15 Thread BOBCAMSCPW via Azores Genealogy
On this one it is everything. I only know the name of the surname which is Manuel Machado da Costa and I think I understand that Defina is the wife. Bob C. In a message dated 7/15/2014 12:05:53 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, gfsche...@gmail.com writes: Bob C, Can you state what you can

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismos Translation help

2014-07-15 Thread Cheri Mello
It's Josino? I haven't come across that one before. Manuel Machado da Costa Yes, from Doze Ribeiras and I think I understand that Defina is the wife. Delfina Augusta from Santa Barbara. Married in Santa Barbara. Josino born 1 a.m. on 5 May 1886. You're doing well on the names. Since the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Synagogue Ponta Delgada

2014-07-15 Thread Barbara Bluhm
Thank you for your response, we will find cemetery Ponta Delgada! On Monday, July 14, 2014 1:41:50 PM UTC-4, mnk wrote: Barbara, There may also be a Jewish cemetery in Ponta Delgada. I'm sure if you do a google search you will find lots of info. My mother's doctor in Ponta Delgada

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hawaii, Massachusettes, or Brazil

2014-07-15 Thread Pam Santos
Excellent thanks for all your responses!! On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Funny how the government blurb you posted differs a little from the information obtained from the plantations there. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila

[AZORES-Genealogy] Azores to California

2014-07-15 Thread Diane Cox
I've enjoyed the thread about Hawaii, Massachusetts or Brazil. Does anyone know the background of the migration to California. There was a large concentration of Portuguese in Newcastle, CA where I grew up. Family tradition says that my great-grandmother came from Flores in the early 1880's

[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with another marriage from Flemengos, Fiail

2014-07-15 Thread Lee
This is the record of marriage for Antonio Joao and Maria Pereira - Left page bottom Think the date is November 4? 1723. Antonio Joao is the son of Manuel Joao and Maria de Can?lyrs?? - *I cannot figure out this word.* - Looks like they may be from this fregusia; but I'm not sure if I'm

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with another marriage from Flemengos, Fiail

2014-07-15 Thread Lee
It would certainly help if I had the link to the record here too! http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1722-1758/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1722-1758_item1/P8.html On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 4:43:58 PM UTC-4, Lee wrote: This is the record of marriage for

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores to California

2014-07-15 Thread Cheri Mello
Diane, In my research it seems like families went to the east coast for factories and mill work and to the west coast for dairy and agriculture. I'm sure others may have other scenarios. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hawaii, Massachusettes, or Brazil

2014-07-15 Thread Eliseu Pacheco da Silva
Hi! Thank you for yor post luiznoia. Will you let us know what/where is the information you gave us done by the Azores Government? Thank you in advance :) eliseu De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de luiznoia . Enviada: terça-feira, 15 de Julho de

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores to California

2014-07-15 Thread Liz Migliori
I just my DVD Portuguese coming to California but haven't started watching yet. Probably this weekend. Perhaps answer is in there. Don't know when the documentary will be on tv Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2014, at 4:43 PM, Diane Cox d...@wwdb.org wrote: I've enjoyed the thread about

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores to California

2014-07-15 Thread Barbara Mecklenburg
Diane, In my research I have found that my ancestors came over to California for whaling and dairy and settled in the Monterey area. Barbara - Original Message - From: Diane Cox To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 2:43 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy]

[AZORES-Genealogy] FRIAS - Água d'Alto e Vila Franca do Campo

2014-07-15 Thread Eliseu Pacheco da Silva
Does anyone have any links to FRIAS from Água d'Alto (Vila Franca do Campo)? Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation)

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores to California

2014-07-15 Thread David Perry
I've known a few Portuguese in California who first went from the Azores to Hawaii to work in the sugarcane fields and then came to California. David On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 1:43:03 PM UTC-7, Diane Cox wrote: I've enjoyed the thread about Hawaii, Massachusetts or Brazil. Does anyone

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hawaii, Massachusettes, or Brazil

2014-07-15 Thread Tanya Smith
I have a copy of my 2nd great grandfathers Honolulu plantation work contract from 1883 - he ended up on the island of Kauai, I don't know how if this was by choice or designation. - 9 USD per month for 1 year - Not sure the equivalent to the current Azores currency at that time. Anyone? Tanya

[AZORES-Genealogy] Jewish cemetery in Faial

2014-07-15 Thread Cheri Mello
Repost for Olivia, nlollyanne123 at gmail.com Hi, can anyone tell me exactly where the Jewish cemetery is in Fayal? -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores to California

2014-07-15 Thread A Faria
Initially what brought an influx to California was the Gold Rush. Sea Captains and the crews were abandoning whaling ships in the San Francisco Harbor to go panning for gold starting in 1849. Most Portuguese however quickly turned their interest to the farmland particularly the dairy industry

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores to California

2014-07-15 Thread luiznoia .
Here are links to Robert Santos's excellent study and stories on the migrations. You might find your immigrant ancestors' story here. I did! Robert L. Santos California State University, Stanislaus Librarian/Archivis Azoreans to California: A History of Migration and Settlement

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores to California

2014-07-15 Thread A Faria
One thing that I didn't mention was the fishing Industry in San Diego California, immigrants from the Azores were heavily involved in it. Antonio On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 1:43:03 PM UTC-7, Diane Cox wrote: I've enjoyed the thread about Hawaii, Massachusetts or Brazil. Does anyone know

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hawaii, Massachusettes, or Brazil

2014-07-15 Thread IslandRoutes
Pam, I don't have any stories passed down, but since all my Hawaii folks came during the first wave of the sugar plantation migration, I suspect that was their motivation. I know for a fact that my de Braga ancestors came to work the sugar planation because I have a copy of the contract that

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hawaii, Massachusettes, or Brazil

2014-07-15 Thread A Faria
I have read that plantation workers were sometimes treated brutally by plantation bosses that they used corporal punishment can anyone confirm that I was born in the Azores and know the culture well I cannot imagine any of our people tolerating that type of treatment without retribution. Does

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] someone on Flores?

2014-07-15 Thread Cheryl Lawrence
Edgar, I have Avellar relatives from Santa Cruz, Flores. Would love to join the family project! - Cheryl On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 7:02 PM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Steve, I keep several databases of Flores families. I'd be interested. I have two different Avellar/Avelar family

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hawaii, Massachusettes, or Brazil

2014-07-15 Thread Dano
Thanks for reposting the original document, Eric. I had saved it to my last computer, but, lost it when it crashed. Apart from the history it covers, its got great stories from the immigrant perspective. On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 8:24:40 PM UTC-4, luiznoia wrote: Eliseu, Here is the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hawaii, Massachusettes, or Brazil

2014-07-15 Thread Pam Santos
Thanks Melody!! On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Dano dpai...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for reposting the original document, Eric. I had saved it to my last computer, but, lost it when it crashed. Apart from the history it covers, its got great stories from the immigrant perspective. On