Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help -need info from Robert DeMello's book

2018-01-22 Thread Cheri Mello
Hi Nina, It says Jose de Mello, 37, son of Jose de Mello & Martinha Rosa from Matriz of Ponta Delgada (that's the Sao Sebastiao church) with Francisca da Conceicao, age 32 and children Agostinho 8, Antonio 6, and Jose 3. No mention of a Manuel. #480 on the Suffolk. The front of the book says the

[AZORES-Genealogy] Help -need info from Robert DeMello's book

2018-01-22 Thread nydemello
I'm having limited success finding information on my grandfather, Jose De Mello. Family records shows he emigrated to Hawaii from Azores. Based on the 1930 census for Honolulu, he was 50 yrs old (which then calculates to 1880 birth year) and emigrated 1882 around 2 years old. My understanding

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio Botelho and Thomazia de Jesus

2018-01-22 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Melissa and Cheri, That's because the record is incorrect. The name is Luis not Francisco and the paternal grandmother is also incorrect, her name is Anasticia Joaquina. Notice how the record shows both grandmothers with the same name. Here's Luis's birth record with the correct set of paren

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antone F. Lawrence of Sao Miguel Azores

2018-01-22 Thread Cheri Mello
Sounds like you are on to something. I hope Cheryl unearths the box with the papers in it! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 7:13 PM, brownat68 wrote: > I had the incorr

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antone F. Lawrence of Sao Miguel Azores

2018-01-22 Thread brownat68
I had the incorrect record actually. My bad translation skills. I think the only connection Lillian and I could find was through the DeMello family which makes sense if Lillian does not share DNA with my Aunt so it has to be on my maternal line. With all the information JR posted on the Furta

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antone F. Lawrence of Sao Miguel Azores

2018-01-22 Thread brownat68
My great grandmother told my mother that this Lawrence family were cousins when she was growing up and my mothers paternal Furtado family is from Vila Franca and other places but not Ribeira das Tainhas. The maternal line is from Ponta Delgada. I wonder if this Furtado family possibly descends f

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antone F. Lawrence of Sao Miguel Azores

2018-01-22 Thread brownat68
If my mothers DNA matches Lillian then it must be through her maternal side. I believe the only connection Lillian and I could find was through the DeMello family. Todd On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 1:34:55 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote: > > I didn't see an AntoniO, but an AntoniA. I think you s

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antone F. Lawrence of Sao Miguel Azores

2018-01-22 Thread brownat68
Thanks. Keep me updated. I'll contact Lillian again soon. I remember we could not find the connection through the Furtado line though. Lillian and I are related on both sides of our families so we share a lot of DNA. Todd On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 9:53:25 PM UTC-5, Cheryl Lawrence wrote:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antone F. Lawrence of Sao Miguel Azores

2018-01-22 Thread Cheryl Lawrence
Tomorrow I will dig through some drawers. I've moved 3 times since that packet came to my old apartment. :( If I can't find it, I'll get you the info on how to obtain it online. Lillian Palko would have tons of info as well. That is her direct line. On Jan 22, 2018 9:31 PM, "brownat68" wrote: I'

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antone F. Lawrence of Sao Miguel Azores

2018-01-22 Thread brownat68
So it was Ribeira das Tainhas. My great grandmother told my mother that this Lawrence family were cousins when she was growing up and my mothers paternal Furtado family is from Vila Franca and other places but not Ribeira das Tainhas. The maternal line is from Ponta Delgada. I wonder if this Fu

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] info from passport

2018-01-22 Thread Cheri Mello
Ummm, you're asking an Azorean genealogy list about something that could be a Russian passport? I know of no one who is of Portuguese/Russian descent on this list. Maybe there is. Or maybe someone married into their family who is of Russian descent and knows. But I doubt you'll get any help for a R

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antone F. Lawrence of Sao Miguel Azores

2018-01-22 Thread brownat68
I'd love to see that info you have on Antonio Furtado Lourenco who lived in Plymouth, MA. Todd On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 11:02:40 AM UTC-5, Cheryl Lawrence wrote: > > Yes, If he has the correct Antonio, that line is closer to Lillian than > me. > Although years ago I sent away for natural

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] info from passport

2018-01-22 Thread Gordon soares
I believe it is American but could be, believe it or not, Russian. Gordon > On Jan 22, 2018, at 3:53 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > American passport or Azorean passaportes? > > On Jan 22, 2018 2:52 PM, "Gordon soares" > wrote: > I have a passport number and a last name.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio Botelho and Thomazia de Jesus

2018-01-22 Thread Cheri Mello
Men generally do not change their names around. The priest was required to read the record back, so the vast majority of errors were caught. I'll look over this when I get home, although Mara may beat me to it. I do know that in instances where I have found discrepancies, I had to collect all sibl

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] info from passport

2018-01-22 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
Gordon are you talking about a US passport or an Azorean passporte? Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 2:50 PM, Gordon soares wrote: > I have a passport number and a last

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] info from passport

2018-01-22 Thread Cheri Mello
American passport or Azorean passaportes? On Jan 22, 2018 2:52 PM, "Gordon soares" wrote: > I have a passport number and a last name. Does anyone know how to get the > info that is on the passport form? > > Gordon Soares > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[AZORES-Genealogy] info from passport

2018-01-22 Thread Gordon soares
I have a passport number and a last name. Does anyone know how to get the info that is on the passport form? Gordon Soares -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, se

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio Botelho and Thomazia de Jesus

2018-01-22 Thread Melissa
Mara and Cheri, Thanks for this help. Here's my confusion and maybe I just have to live with it: In their marriage record Antonio's father is listed as Joao, which matches, and his mother is listed as Jacinta Candida. In the baptism you linked to, his mother is Francisca. In their marriage rec

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antone F. Lawrence of Sao Miguel Azores

2018-01-22 Thread JR
Sorry, that marriage date should be Oct 15- 1877, *not 1887.* JR On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 3:42:14 PM UTC-5, JR wrote: > > The parents of Antonio, who was actually born- April 19- 1886, bap- April > 26, 1886, married in Ribeira das Tainhas, Oct 15- 1887. They are Francisco > Furtado Louren

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antone F. Lawrence of Sao Miguel Azores

2018-01-22 Thread JR
The parents of Antonio, who was actually born- April 19- 1886, bap- April 26, 1886, married in Ribeira das Tainhas, Oct 15- 1887. They are Francisco Furtado Lourenco (or Lourencia) and Maria da Luz Rei http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-C-1870-1879/SMG-VF-

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antone F. Lawrence of Sao Miguel Azores

2018-01-22 Thread Cheri Mello
Ooh, crossing fingers that someone is going to get lucky! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 8:02 AM, Cheryl Lawrence wrote: > Yes, If he has the correct Antonio, tha

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antone F. Lawrence of Sao Miguel Azores

2018-01-22 Thread Cheryl Lawrence
Yes, If he has the correct Antonio, that line is closer to Lillian than me. Although years ago I sent away for naturalization papers for my Antonio Furtado Lourenco, and got a packet back in the mail about another Antonio Furtado Lourenco who lived in Plymouth, MA. I will see if I can find it. On

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antone F. Lawrence of Sao Miguel Azores

2018-01-22 Thread JR
You have to be careful. There are Furtado Lourenco's and Furtado Lourencia's. The first is mostly in Ponta Garca; the latter is mostly in Ribeira das Tainhas and come from Vila Franca. Moreover, they sometimes interchange the names! And there are similar names in both villages! I suspect the R