RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading baptism of Josepha born 1704 inAltares

2019-08-01 Thread doreencaetano
Now that you pointed it out Yes. I have corrected this before only to make the same mistake. Been at this all day. Need to stop. Thanks, Doreen Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Bill Seidler Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 7:43 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading baptism of Josepha born 1704 in Altares

2019-07-31 Thread Bill Seidler
José ROIS (Rodridgues) . Bartolomeu Gil's father was João Gonçalves, this is José Rodrigues. On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 5:57:09 PM UTC-7, doreencaetano wrote: > > This record has information that does not fit into my other information. > The record is on the bottom left side of the page.

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with baptism

2019-06-18 Thread Philippe Garnier
All right. Philippe Garnier Le mardi 18 juin 2019 03:35:07 UTC+2, Leonor Bertoni a écrit : > > I think I have an idea of what happened here but I'm not sure if I'm > correct. > > From what I understand, Manoel was baptized at home by a gentleman who was > his godfather, Manoel Joaquim de

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading baptism of Maria de Viveiros Aguiar

2019-03-24 Thread bsei2816
Tough to read, but this is what I am getting: Maria, daughter of Francisco de Aguiar, natural of the parochial church of NS da Conceição, in Mosteiros; and of Antonia de (Viveiros is my guess), natural of this parish. Born on the first day of October of 1755 and baptized in this parish of her

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Baptism record for Jose son ofJoseCoelho Machado and Isabel de Jesus.

2018-09-09 Thread Cheri Mello
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Baptism record for Jose son ofJoseCoelho Machado and Isabel de Jesus.

2018-09-09 Thread doreencaetano
You are right. I’m only interested in Jose Coelho Machado. Thanks Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: bsei2...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2018 4:33 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Baptism record for Jose son ofJoseCoelho Machado and Isabel de

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Baptism record for Jose son of JoseCoelho Machado and Isabel de Jesus.

2018-09-09 Thread bsei2816
I thought you wanted Jose, son of Jose Coelho Machado and Isabel de Jesus which does not have margin note. The record with the margin note is for Jose, natural son of Catarina Ignacia, single. The margin note says Jose is legitimized by the marriage of Jose Lourenço Caetano and Catarina

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Baptism record for Jose son of JoseCoelho Machado and Isabel de Jesus.

2018-09-09 Thread doreencaetano
, 2018 3:48 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Baptism record for Jose son of JoseCoelho Machado and Isabel de Jesus. Doreen,   This is how I read it:   Baptism: José on 1 July 1862 at São Roque dos Altares Date of birth: 3 June 1862 (or maybe 13 June; the line above

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Baptism record for Jose son of Jose Coelho Machado and Isabel de Jesus.

2018-09-09 Thread bsei2816
Doreen, This is how I read it: Baptism: José on 1 July 1862 at São Roque dos Altares Date of birth: 3 June 1862 (or maybe 13 June; the line above interferes) Father: José Coelho Machado, laborer Mother: Isabel de Jesus, worker Both parents are naturals, were married in, and are

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with baptism please.

2016-08-09 Thread mances
I think is Pombeiro though the b is not like the others b but there's an m before it. The rest is correct. Manoel Em terça-feira, 9 de agosto de 2016 21:35:19 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: > > On 25 Mar 1614. Beatriz fa Baltazar P-? e Maria Martins. Padrinhos: > Jeronimo? de Oliveira? e >

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Baptism - Sao Mateus, Terceira

2016-07-26 Thread Philippe GARNIER
Excelent. I am not surprised she was more of 20 years, but 37 it's a surprise. Perhaps she had others children before. There is a couple José da Rocha e Maria Joaquina in S. Mateus married in 1769 (fl. 78v). Perhaps they are the parents searched. I have not in my database. Good luck Philippe

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Baptism - Sao Mateus, Terceira

2016-07-26 Thread Lee
With your encouragement, I found Josefas baptismal record. The surprise? She was 37 when she had Maria in 1810. Her parents were Jose Simoes da Rocha (sometimes da Rocha Simoes) and Maria Joaquina. Again, thank you! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Baptism - Sao Mateus, Terceira

2016-07-25 Thread Philippe GARNIER
Excellent Lee, you have found the Maria do Carmo grandparents. She has not godparents because was baptized at home. It's not the rule, but it's frequent. There is no mariage of José Simois and Maria Jaquina in S. Mateus. Not also in the 4 parishes of Angra. You need to find the Josefa Joaquina

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Baptism - Sao Mateus, Terceira

2016-07-25 Thread Margaret Vicente
The date is correct. You also have the Josefa Joaquina's father name correct. Jose Simons (Simoes, present day) On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 12:25 AM, linda wrote: > > > Hi Lee, > > Simon, I think. The "S" for Sao Matheus looks about the same. Also the > child was

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Baptism - Sao Mateus, Terceira

2016-07-24 Thread linda
Hi Lee, Simon, I think. The "S" for Sao Matheus looks about the same. Also the child was baptised at home by the priest because they feared her life was in peril. :) Linda On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 6:24:58 PM UTC-7, Lee wrote: > > Maria, bottom right > > Finally found the record I've

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Baptism - Sao Mateus, Teceira

2016-07-24 Thread Lee
Answered my own question, it's Coelho - I found their marriage record in 1841. On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 4:35:23 PM UTC-4, Lee wrote: > > Top left > > Maria daughter of Antonio da Rocha and Maria do Carmo, both of Sao Mateus > > Born March ??, 1852 > > Padrinohos, Manoel Jose

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with baptism - Sao Mateus, Santa Cruz, Graciosa

2016-03-20 Thread linda
Absolutely! best of luck with your research :) L. On Sunday, March 20, 2016 at 9:40:13 AM UTC-7, Lee wrote: > > That's what I'm think too. The priest assumed (and at that time too) > everyone knew who she was. It makes you think of what our ancestors would > think of us pouring over

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with baptism - Sao Mateus, Santa Cruz, Graciosa

2016-03-20 Thread Lee
ThanksI sort of figured that. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with baptism translation

2015-04-03 Thread linda
Manoel, Thank you! I'm not the OP, but it's a very interesting record, and I'm glad to know better where my efforts went awry. :) Cheri, I think the priest is being snarky-- something to the effect of Yeah, rght Linda On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 6:44:42 AM UTC-7, mances wrote:

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with baptism translation

2015-04-03 Thread mances
*Maria*, filha de: *Manuel Furtado*, solteiro, filho de Domingos Furtado Rezende, já defunto, e de sua mulher Maria Cabral, [a qual menina, diz sua mãe, é filha do dito Manuel Furtado, e a teve dela à título de casar com ela, e assim o diz o vulgo por ser de gente branca e ...?], e de

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with baptism translation

2015-04-03 Thread Cheri Mello
Too much he/she stuff. Who is squawking about the white people? The bride? In Canto's marriage index for Achada (although this entry was written by Rodrigo Rodrigues) it says something about the bride's parents, I think: 22 Oct 1695 Manoel Furtado, son of Manoel Furtado, deceased, and Maria

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with baptism translation

2015-04-02 Thread linda
If I read this correctly, then: Maria-- filha de Manoel furtado Solteiro, filho de domingos furtado Rezende, ja defunto, ed de Sua mulher Maria Cabral, aqual menino des sua may. E fo. de ditto Manoel furtado [can't really get this section]... e de Francisca de Simas [nossa ?], Solteira, filha

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Baptism - Rabo de Piexe

2014-10-22 Thread robertaingram
It looks like it is Ricardir , it is very unusual name though. Roberta On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:26:30 PM UTC-7, Lee wrote: Can someone please look at the baptismal of Francisco - left page, bottom I can see that he the son of Francisco Pacheo de Mello and Elena (Helena?) Isabel;

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Baptism

2014-04-14 Thread Dano
Correct on both counts on the first two. As for Isabel, her name appears to be Isabel Soeira de Bittencourt. On Monday, April 14, 2014 6:48:07 PM UTC-4, Gerri Martin wrote: There are a few words I am not sure of. Father -Jose Furtado Bravo? official de ? Maternal grandparents is it Manuel

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Baptism - Agua Retorta, Povoacao, Ponta Delgada

2014-02-15 Thread JR
It says: Manoel, son of Bernardo Teixeira Nogueira and his spouse, Victoria Maria natives of Faial da Terra, NS da Graca, residents of Agua Retorta, born 18th of Janaury, 1831, baptised 23rd day of the same month and year, in this ermida (chapel) of NS de Penha de Franca by Cura Antonio

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Baptism - Agua Retorta, Povoacao, Ponta Delgada

2014-02-15 Thread Lee
Thank you, JR! This helps tremendoulsy. We've been stuck on this family for some time. I'll be watching carefully for that distinction of the place of the event, etc. Lee -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Baptism - Agua Retorta, Povoacao, Ponta Delgada

2014-02-15 Thread JR
The priest name is Antonio Pacheco de Amaral, as stated in first reference and not Manuel. JR On Saturday, February 15, 2014 7:56:23 PM UTC-5, Lee wrote: Thank you, JR! This helps tremendoulsy. We've been stuck on this family for some time. I'll be watching carefully for that distinction

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with baptism margin note

2012-03-08 Thread Denis Meals
mother Barbara Jacintha. . Maybe they are yours. henrietta *From:* Denis Meals deni...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, March 05, 2012 8:04 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with baptism margin note Thanks to Ary, Dano, Elaine, and especially JR, for your

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with baptism margin note

2012-03-07 Thread henriettamayer
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with baptism margin note Thanks to Ary, Dano, Elaine, and especially JR, for your collective thoughtful replies. In this particular case - 4 of the 5 sons of José de Braga-Jacintha Umbelina have the same note (different dates) attached

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with baptism margin note

2012-03-05 Thread JR
Notations could be issued for any reason, such as passport, to prove descendancy when making a property claim or inheritance, or for other legal reasons, as well as a notation for death, marriage or birth. In this case, most likely to obtain a passport or other legal documents to leave the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with baptism margin note

2012-03-05 Thread Denis Meals
Thanks to Ary, Dano, Elaine, and especially JR, for your collective thoughtful replies. In this particular case - 4 of the 5 sons of José de Braga-Jacintha Umbelina have the same note (different dates) attached to their baptism records. In addition, two of these sons each have 2 similar notes.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with baptism margin note

2012-03-05 Thread Margaret Vicente
Denis, If I may add to JR's list and from direct experience there's 1 very specific reason for the certification notes across families and for which proof of birth was and is currently required which is inheritance claims. When I see certification across the board for 2 or 3 generations just

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with baptism margin note

2012-03-02 Thread bellemarco
My grandmother has a notation on her Lisbon baptism record and it was because she had requested a copy for travel overseas. E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with baptism margin note

2012-03-02 Thread Denis Meals
Dano Ary: These notations have me completely puzzled. These are occurring in the male children of José de Braga-Jacintha Umbelina, though I have also seen them in other incidences, but only rarely. In the present case, these notations apparently have nothing to do with the death or marriage of