Now that you pointed it out Yes. I have corrected this before only to make the
same mistake. Been at this all day. Need to stop. Thanks, Doreen
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José ROIS (Rodridgues) . Bartolomeu Gil's father was João Gonçalves, this
is José Rodrigues.
On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 5:57:09 PM UTC-7, doreencaetano wrote:
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> This record has information that does not fit into my other information.
> The record is on the bottom left side of the page.
All right.
Philippe Garnier
Le mardi 18 juin 2019 03:35:07 UTC+2, Leonor Bertoni a écrit :
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> I think I have an idea of what happened here but I'm not sure if I'm
> correct.
>
> From what I understand, Manoel was baptized at home by a gentleman who was
> his godfather, Manoel Joaquim de
Tough to read, but this is what I am getting:
Maria, daughter of Francisco de Aguiar, natural of the parochial church of
NS da Conceição, in Mosteiros; and of Antonia de (Viveiros is my guess),
natural of this parish.
Born on the first day of October of 1755 and baptized in this parish of her
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You are right. I’m only interested in Jose Coelho Machado. Thanks
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I thought you wanted Jose, son of Jose Coelho Machado and Isabel de Jesus
which does not have margin note. The record with the margin note is for
Jose, natural son of Catarina Ignacia, single. The margin note says Jose
is legitimized by the marriage of Jose Lourenço Caetano and Catarina
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JoseCoelho Machado and Isabel de Jesus.
Doreen,
This is how I read it:
Baptism: José on 1 July 1862 at São Roque dos Altares
Date of birth: 3 June 1862 (or maybe 13 June; the line above
Doreen,
This is how I read it:
Baptism: José on 1 July 1862 at São Roque dos Altares
Date of birth: 3 June 1862 (or maybe 13 June; the line above interferes)
Father: José Coelho Machado, laborer
Mother: Isabel de Jesus, worker
Both parents are naturals, were married in, and are
I think is Pombeiro though the b is not like the others b but there's an m
before it.
The rest is correct.
Manoel
Em terça-feira, 9 de agosto de 2016 21:35:19 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
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> On 25 Mar 1614. Beatriz fa Baltazar P-? e Maria Martins. Padrinhos:
> Jeronimo? de Oliveira? e
>
Excelent. I am not surprised she was more of 20 years, but 37 it's a
surprise. Perhaps she had others children before.
There is a couple José da Rocha e Maria Joaquina in S. Mateus married in
1769 (fl. 78v). Perhaps they are the parents searched. I have not in my
database.
Good luck
Philippe
With your encouragement, I found Josefas baptismal record. The surprise? She
was 37 when she had Maria in 1810.
Her parents were Jose Simoes da Rocha (sometimes da Rocha Simoes) and Maria
Joaquina.
Again, thank you!
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Excellent Lee, you have found the Maria do Carmo grandparents. She has not
godparents because was baptized at home. It's not the rule, but it's
frequent.
There is no mariage of José Simois and Maria Jaquina in S. Mateus. Not also
in the 4 parishes of Angra. You need to find the Josefa Joaquina
The date is correct.
You also have the Josefa Joaquina's father name correct. Jose Simons
(Simoes, present day)
On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 12:25 AM, linda wrote:
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> Hi Lee,
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> Simon, I think. The "S" for Sao Matheus looks about the same. Also the
> child was
Hi Lee,
Simon, I think. The "S" for Sao Matheus looks about the same. Also the
child was baptised at home by the priest because they feared her life was
in peril.
:)
Linda
On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 6:24:58 PM UTC-7, Lee wrote:
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> Maria, bottom right
>
> Finally found the record I've
Answered my own question, it's Coelho - I found their marriage record in
1841.
On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 4:35:23 PM UTC-4, Lee wrote:
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> Top left
>
> Maria daughter of Antonio da Rocha and Maria do Carmo, both of Sao Mateus
>
> Born March ??, 1852
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> Padrinohos, Manoel Jose
Absolutely!
best of luck with your research
:)
L.
On Sunday, March 20, 2016 at 9:40:13 AM UTC-7, Lee wrote:
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> That's what I'm think too. The priest assumed (and at that time too)
> everyone knew who she was. It makes you think of what our ancestors would
> think of us pouring over
ThanksI sort of figured that.
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Manoel,
Thank you! I'm not the OP, but it's a very interesting record, and I'm
glad to know better where my efforts went awry. :)
Cheri, I think the priest is being snarky-- something to the effect of
Yeah, rght
Linda
On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 6:44:42 AM UTC-7, mances wrote:
*Maria*, filha de:
*Manuel Furtado*, solteiro, filho de Domingos Furtado Rezende, já defunto,
e de sua mulher Maria Cabral, [a qual menina, diz sua mãe, é filha do dito
Manuel Furtado, e a teve dela à título de casar com ela, e assim o diz o
vulgo por ser de gente branca e ...?],
e de
Too much he/she stuff. Who is squawking about the white people? The bride?
In Canto's marriage index for Achada (although this entry was written by
Rodrigo Rodrigues) it says something about the bride's parents, I think:
22 Oct 1695 Manoel Furtado, son of Manoel Furtado, deceased, and Maria
If I read this correctly, then:
Maria-- filha de Manoel furtado Solteiro, filho de domingos furtado
Rezende, ja defunto, ed de Sua mulher Maria Cabral, aqual menino des sua
may. E fo. de ditto Manoel furtado [can't really get this section]... e de
Francisca de Simas [nossa ?], Solteira, filha
It looks like it is Ricardir , it is very unusual name though.
Roberta
On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:26:30 PM UTC-7, Lee wrote:
Can someone please look at the baptismal of Francisco - left page, bottom
I can see that he the son of Francisco Pacheo de Mello and Elena (Helena?)
Isabel;
Correct on both counts on the first two. As for Isabel, her name appears to
be Isabel Soeira de Bittencourt.
On Monday, April 14, 2014 6:48:07 PM UTC-4, Gerri Martin wrote:
There are a few words I am not sure of. Father -Jose Furtado Bravo?
official de ?
Maternal grandparents is it Manuel
It says:
Manoel, son of Bernardo Teixeira Nogueira and his spouse, Victoria Maria
natives of Faial da Terra, NS da Graca, residents of Agua Retorta, born
18th of Janaury, 1831, baptised 23rd day of the same month and year, in
this ermida (chapel) of NS de Penha de Franca by Cura Antonio
Thank you, JR!
This helps tremendoulsy. We've been stuck on this family for some time.
I'll be watching carefully for that distinction of the place of the event, etc.
Lee
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The priest name is Antonio Pacheco de Amaral, as stated in first reference
and not Manuel.
JR
On Saturday, February 15, 2014 7:56:23 PM UTC-5, Lee wrote:
Thank you, JR!
This helps tremendoulsy. We've been stuck on this family for some time.
I'll be watching carefully for that distinction
mother Barbara Jacintha. . Maybe they are
yours. henrietta
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Thanks to Ary, Dano, Elaine, and especially JR, for your collective thoughtful
replies.
In this particular case - 4 of the 5 sons of José de Braga-Jacintha Umbelina
have the same note (different dates) attached
Notations could be issued for any reason, such as passport, to prove
descendancy when making a property claim or inheritance, or for other
legal reasons, as well as a notation for death, marriage or birth. In
this case, most likely to obtain a passport or other legal documents
to leave the
Thanks to Ary, Dano, Elaine, and especially JR, for your collective
thoughtful replies.
In this particular case - 4 of the 5 sons of José de Braga-Jacintha
Umbelina have the same note (different dates) attached to their baptism
records. In addition, two of these sons each have 2 similar notes.
Denis,
If I may add to JR's list and from direct experience there's 1 very
specific reason for the certification notes across families and for which
proof of birth was and is currently required which is inheritance claims.
When I see certification across the board for 2 or 3 generations just
My grandmother has a notation on her Lisbon baptism record and it was
because she had requested a copy for travel overseas.
E
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Dano Ary:
These notations have me completely puzzled. These are occurring in the
male children of José de Braga-Jacintha Umbelina, though I have also seen
them in other incidences, but only rarely. In the present case, these
notations apparently have nothing to do with the death or marriage of
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