Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Travassos vs Travalos

Thanks Manoel. Sent from my iPad > On Apr 4, 2016, at 9:11 AM, mances wrote: > > Hi cousin Altino, > > As I went back in time I found that I have ancestors all over the island of > São Miguel, in every freguesia. > > I've looked the baptisms of Barnabé Travassos' children

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Hi cousin Altino, As I went back in time I found that I have ancestors all over the island of São Miguel, in every freguesia. I've looked the baptisms of Barnabé Travassos' children and with some informations about him in RR's book I think that probably he is son of Diogo Velho, from

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Thanks for the info on the Portuguese rule of vowel applications. George Medeiros Sent from my iPad On Apr 2, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Margaret Vicente wrote: > Hi Cathy, > > Yes, it is. I think in order for this to be understood one needs to know the > Portuguese rule

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Hi cousin Manoel, I thought we might be related since we were researching the same villages. Once you go back to the time of the early settlers, it is easier to make connections. I am a descendant of their daughter Margarida who married Antonio Gonçalves in Candelaria May 2, 1652.  Sent

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Thanks, this helped me as well. On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 5:35 PM, Sandra Perez wrote: > Wow, I see now, > > On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Ângela Loura > wrote: > >> It's very similar to the "s" on "missas" >> >> [image: Imagem inline 1] >> >>

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Margaret, we have learned so much today helping each other. I love it! On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Margaret Vicente wrote: > Hi Cathy, > > Yes, it is. I think in order for this to be understood one needs to know > the Portuguese rule of vowel applications (a, e,

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Hi Cathy, Yes, it is. I think in order for this to be understood one needs to know the Portuguese rule of vowel applications (a, e, i, o u) to the consonants. The rule was that when, as in this case, an S is in between two vowels the phonetics change in that the "S" sound is now pronounced as

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Altino, Barnabé Travassos and Mécia de Sousa are my ancestors too. I descend from their daughter Isabel de Sousa who married Manuel Diniz in Candelária on 13 apr 1643 - CCA #55. Manoel César Furtado Em sábado, 2 de abril de 2016 16:51:51 UTC-3, Altino escreveu: > > Sandra, I have a Nicolau de

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Margaret, I have seen in old English writing. I almost began to think they spoke with a lisp. On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 4:07 PM, linda wrote: > > The "s" that looks like an "f" is called a "long s". There's a good write > up of it in Wikipedia: > >

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The "s" that looks like an "f" is called a "long s". There's a good write up of it in Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_s Essentially (the long and short of it! ha!), the "s" we use today was mostly used at the ends of words, while the long s was used at the beginning and middle

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Wow, I see now, On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Ângela Loura wrote: > It's very similar to the "s" on "missas" > > [image: Imagem inline 1] > > 2016-04-02 21:24 GMT+01:00 Cathy Bourgeois : > >> So Margaret, is that the same spelling as the

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It's very similar to the "s" on "missas" [image: Imagem inline 1] 2016-04-02 21:24 GMT+01:00 Cathy Bourgeois : > So Margaret, is that the same spelling as the one I mentioned (right hand > side)? Jose de Sousa Travasos? > > >

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Angela, I put your reply in a free translator site and got this: The surname Travassos was an alternative of Travaços. It is accepted that this nickname has originated in the Latin word rebuilt *trabatiu- with origin in the word that means "hotstart lock or tree trunk". Trabazos is the name of

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Cheri, I see the double "s" in CONGRESS. The first almost looks like an "f." On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Sandra Perez wrote: > Margaret, I see it clearly now. On Amaro's name the "s" drops down. On > Francisco's name the "s" goes up. Can translate the passage >

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Margaret, I see it clearly now. On Amaro's name the "s" drops down. On Francisco's name the "s" goes up. Can translate the passage from RR? On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Ângela Loura wrote: > O apelido *Travassos* era uma alternativa de *Travaços*. Admite-se que >

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O apelido *Travassos* era uma alternativa de *Travaços*. Admite-se que este apelido tenha tido origem no vocábulo latino reconstruído **trabatiu*- com origem no vocábulo *trabs*, que significa «trave ou tronco de árvore». *Trabazos* é o nome de algumas localidades na Galiza. Em Fafe, Vila Verde,

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So Margaret, is that the same spelling as the one I mentioned (right hand side)? Jose de Sousa Travasos? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1707-1732/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1707-1732_item1/P111.html On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Margaret Vicente

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Yes, the name is Travassos not Travalos (I don't think that's a name). The double "s" has had its evolution over time (not only in Portuguese, but in English as well). Here is an example of the spelling of "Congress" from the U.S. Constitution. Yes, they spelled it correctly - C-o-n-g-r-e-s-s.

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Sandra, the letter you're transcribing as (L) one single *S, TravaSos.* Have a look at my ancestor, Amaro Rodrigues Travasos (Travassos) which will illustrate it better for you to see.

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Sandra, I have a Nicolau de Sous married to Maria Carvalho in 1659 in Candelaria, Sao Miguel. He is the son of Barnabé Travassos and Mecia de Sousa. (I think your Tavalos is really Travassos). Barnabé is my 10th great grandfather. Sent from my iPad > On Apr 2, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Sandra Perez

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I have Sebastiao Travalos married to Margarida de Sousa Azevedo (no marriage found yet). They had several children. The first child I found was Maria b. 21 Sep 1688 in Rosto de Cao, Sao Roque. Her marriage is the only record where I found the Name AZEVEDO attached to Margarida. They had a

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You're right. And I wonder ... I think all of us descend from the Travassos line of São Miguel. Manoel Em sexta-feira, 1 de abril de 2016 22:18:08 UTC-3, Mara escreveu: > > Hi and if I may ad regarding original spelling some priests used the soft > "C" or single "S" instead of the double SS.

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Hi and if I may ad regarding original spelling some priests used the soft "C" or single "S" instead of the double SS. Travacos, Travasos i/o Travassos. We should take a look at the original. On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 8:55 PM, mances wrote: > Sandra, > > There's no Travalos in

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Travassos vs Travalos

Sandra, There's no Travalos in portuguese. My mother language is portuguese and I have never seen this word. Manoel Em sexta-feira, 1 de abril de 2016 20:19:09 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: > > Are theses names interchangable? > > > -- > Sandra Perez > -- For options, such as changing to

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JR, I will show you what I have that leads me believe that tomorrow. On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 5:30 PM, Sandra Perez wrote: > JR, I am thinking Travassos maybe an older version of Travalos. > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 5:11 PM, JR wrote: > >> Not really.

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JR, I am thinking Travassos maybe an older version of Travalos. On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 5:11 PM, JR wrote: > Not really. I suggest Travalo is a misspelled Travassos, but If you know > it to be correct, it could be nickname. > > JR > > > On Friday, April 1, 2016 at 7:19:09 PM

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Travassos vs Travalos

Not really. I suggest Travalo is a misspelled Travassos, but If you know it to be correct, it could be nickname. JR On Friday, April 1, 2016 at 7:19:09 PM UTC-4, Sandra Perez wrote: > > Are theses names interchangable? > > > -- > Sandra Perez > -- For options, such as changing to List,