Jakob Nielsen: Web 2.0 'neglecting good design'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6653119.stm
seems to have copied my pitch for hackday ~:
has he been invited?
was I?
did anyone else have ideas or requirements for an accessible SVG
front end?
cheers
Jonathan Chetwynd
Accessibility
hackday: Scratch Very Good
for the more ambitious out there:
how about collaborating on a children's hack authoring tool with SVG?
Scratch or Squeak with Hacks
chears
Jonathan Chetwynd
http://scratch.mit.edu/
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At 08:48 +0100 15/5/07, ~:'' ÇÝÇËÇÇǧǾǥǢÇÐǵÇÅB wrote:
Jakob Nielsen: Web 2.0 'neglecting good design'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6653119.stm
seems to have copied my pitch for hackday ~:
has he been invited?
was I?
did anyone else have ideas or requirements for an
Not really on topic but almost...
We're planning to release a dump of our historical Proms data (?1936?-2007)
here under the usual creative commons licence soon(ish). It's currently off
being re-keyed but as soon as that's done we'll make it available. Make of it
what you will...
Other data
This is all my personal opinion, and I entirely disagree.
Mr Nielsen has a history of spouting contrary opinions to court
controversy and gain publicity for himself and his company.
Web 2.0[1] (for me at least) incorporates best practice methodologies
of developing to standards (and the
Jason Gordon
any good Accessible Web 2.0 websites you'd care to plug?
or are you in a rush?
cheers
Jonathan Chetwynd
On 15 May 2007, at 10:18, Jason Cartwright wrote:
This is all my personal opinion, and I entirely disagree.
Mr Nielsen has a history of spouting contrary opinions to court
Uhhh, del.icio.us ?
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Jason Gordon
any good Accessible Web 2.0
This particular rant seems to be about useability rather than
accessibility (although I appreciate the two are often closely
related). Much as I often loathe Nielsen's writing - Jason's right,
it's often all about Nielsen more than it is about any actual problems
- in this case he's got a point.
You Jacob talk as if the two (good design/accessiblity web 2.0)
are mutually exclusive. There is nothing stopping a Web 2.0 site being
well designed or accessible, as I showed before they are actually *more*
likely to be.
I notice that you've added the word accessible. Jacob doesn't mention
it.
I forgot to mention.
A web 2.0 site is also more likely to have an API, allowing
programmatic to the content and the ability to create a fully accessible
interfaces to various disadvantaged user's needs.
J
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Richard,
how does one use http://maps.google.com/ via the keyboard?
cheers
Jonathan Chetwynd
On 15 May 2007, at 13:22, Richard Lockwood wrote:
This particular rant seems to be about useability rather than
accessibility (although I appreciate the two are often closely
related). Much as I
Disable javascript. Everything works fine.
J
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Richard,
how
Well you can scroll around with the arrow keys and zoom in and out with
+ and -. Not sure how you change to satellite using keys, but I'm sure
its in there.
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Richard,
how does one use http://maps.google.com/ via the keyboard?
cheers
Jonathan Chetwynd
On 15 May
Odeo.com is a classic example of a Web2 site which looks very nice but
unfortunately suffers from a REAL lack of usability. I actually used the
site to add a new entry to my podcast on there, and then ranted about how
hard it was to do so (and half of their in-page embedded players STILL don't
We're on the same wavelength... I've actually compiled all the BBC links I
use onto a site formatted for my Vario 2 (or any =QVGA mobile device) -
http://3g.totallyowns.co.uk
It's uber-simple at the moment, I'll probably make it look a bit nicer and
probably more dynamic (to make it easier to
Just checked through my backlog of emails and I noticed (with glee) that I
had one inviting me to apply for the iPlayer public trial... Sweet! So, I
filled it in sharpish and fired it off (and I hope it filled it all out
correctly, the more I think about it the more I'm not sure whether I chose
Jason Stephen,
when javascript is disabled in Opera or Camino the message is:
Your web browser is not fully supported by Google Maps
I wonder is the code IE7 specific?
none of the keys work for me on os x
unless I'm missing something this hardly qualifies as accessible...
regards
Jonathan
Keeping the Flickr train of thought for a second, have you seen ipernity.com
recently?
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