http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/may/08/bbc.television2
*He also sounded a warning for BBC executives, accusing them of "incredible
naivety" in believing they could control the distribution of programmes
online. *
*Programmes distributed via the BBC's increasingly popular online iPlayer
servi
ndrew
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It's rather interesting that one of the very
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Didn't think of it like that, good points
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Tom Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good example of how the world looks *very* different if you're a
> rights holder currently making money from your secondary rights...
> even a rights holder as clued up as Fry
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: [backstage] Stephen Fry: "There is this marvellous
idea the
iPlayer is secure. It's anything but secure"
It's rather interesting that one of the very few TV personalities
who really
*gets* the digital revolution (tm) and all that is essentially
arguing that
the digi
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I think the point is that no technical copy inhibiting scheme will
ever "work"; the best ones will only discourage casual users but time
and time again we see that such solutions merely penalize most users.
Unscrupulous vendors or integrators will assert that "protection" is
available to worried ri
2008/5/8 Richard P Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I agree with Mr Fry's position and furthermore, I think that it is
> important, as is my own case, to understand that there are many
> rights-holders who fear all of this. and the result is that they cannot
> see a high quality/secure way t
http://www.contentinople.com/author.asp?section_id=450&doc_id=152567
So Verisign is spinning off Kontiki?
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Jeremy Stone wrote:
the transcript and audio have just been uploaded.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/thefuture/transcript_fry.shtml
wot, no mp3? ;)
Phil
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Jeremy Stone wrote:
don't shoot the messenger!
I initially thought of signing off as Phil 'never satisfied' Wilson, but couldn't bear the
thought of causing so much nationwide tittering.
Oh, wait...
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2008/5/8 Richard P Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> I am still not certain about Dave Crossland's model either
As kind as it is to be attributed with the http://freedomdefined.org
model of culture that I advocate, may I suggest you call it the
"culture freedom" model or similar :-)
> as a res
Thanks Dave,
If I slacked anymore, I'd be totally horizontal. :-)
The problem isn't money, it is the legal contracts associated with trying to
protect created works for use worldwide through the internet, and the
derivatives.
Personally I would like to see a brand new approach, one that truly pr
2008/5/18 Richard Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> The problem isn't money, it is the legal contracts associated with trying to
> protect
> created works for use worldwide through the internet, and the derivatives.
The ones that exist will time out; the ones that haven't been signed
yet can be ch
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Jeremy Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> the transcript and audio have just been uploaded.
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/thefuture/transcript_fry.shtml
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> video goes out on bbc parliament and then iplayer after that on sat 9pm.
Annoyingly (an perhaps ironically), even t
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