Re: [BackupPC-users] How does BackupPC work?

2009-02-18 Thread Cody Dunne
Hi everyone, I tried to summarize this conversation on the wiki. Please check over it to see if there's anything that I got wrong or you can add: http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net/Full+vs.+Incremental+Backups Cody -

Re: [BackupPC-users] Q: Occasional 'backup' of backupPC to offsite ..

2009-02-18 Thread Adam Goryachev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim Chipman wrote: > Hi, > > I was reviewing the recent thread on the topic of "how to make a > backup copy of my backupPC server" - ie - for offsite backup > redundancy.. and I wanted to see if this is done / doable, given > certain circumstances, >

Re: [BackupPC-users] meaning of different "Aborting backup" failure messages

2009-02-18 Thread Cody Dunne
Hi everyone, I added the error message descriptions from this thread to the error message page on the wiki: http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net/ErrorMessages Please see if there's anything you can add or fix for them! Cody

[BackupPC-users] Q: Occasional 'backup' of backupPC to offsite ..

2009-02-18 Thread Tim Chipman
Hi, I was reviewing the recent thread on the topic of "how to make a backup copy of my backupPC server" - ie - for offsite backup redundancy.. and I wanted to see if this is done / doable, given certain circumstances, - second site is 100Mb connection (can get ~10-12megs per second through the ne

Re: [BackupPC-users] How does BackupPC work?

2009-02-18 Thread Jon Craig
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Bowie Bailey wrote: > > I know that there is something that can get missed by an incremental > backup as a result of the way it works, I just don't remember exactly > what it is. > Incrementals catch files based on the timestamp of the last run, not changes in ind

Re: [BackupPC-users] How does BackupPC work?

2009-02-18 Thread Les Mikesell
John Goerzen wrote: >> With rsync, a full does a block checksum compare of all >> files, incrementals only files where the timestamp or length differ. On >> the server side, fulls rebuild a complete tree of links, incrementals >> only have the differing files. > > So, if I use the rsync method

Re: [BackupPC-users] How does BackupPC work?

2009-02-18 Thread Tino Schwarze
Hi John, On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 01:24:16PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > >> So, given that, I don't really understand why there is a distinction > >> between a full and an incremental backup. Shouldn't either one take > >> up the same amount of space? That is, if you've got few changes on > >>

Re: [BackupPC-users] How does BackupPC work?

2009-02-18 Thread John Goerzen
On 2009-02-18, Les Mikesell wrote: > John Goerzen wrote: >> So, given that, I don't really understand why there is a distinction >> between a full and an incremental backup. Shouldn't either one take >> up the same amount of space? That is, if you've got few changes on >> the client, then on the

Re: [BackupPC-users] How does BackupPC work?

2009-02-18 Thread Bowie Bailey
Tino Schwarze wrote: > Hi Bowie, > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:26:16PM -0500, Bowie Bailey wrote: > > > > So, given that, I don't really understand why there is a > > > distinction between a full and an incremental backup. Shouldn't > > > either one take up the same amount of space? That is, i

Re: [BackupPC-users] scp only

2009-02-18 Thread Les Mikesell
Terri Kelley wrote: > I am wanting to backup the config on tons of routers I have but they do > not support rsync. They do support ssh and scp. > I have found a script where on a normal nix box where it will run > through a node list and retrieve the backups of each router (node). > Is it possibl

Re: [BackupPC-users] How does BackupPC work?

2009-02-18 Thread Adam Goryachev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tino Schwarze wrote: > Hi John, > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:58:14AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > >> I've been reading docs on BackupPC and I have a few questions about >> how it works. >> >> First off, I gather that it keeps a hardlinked pool of d

Re: [BackupPC-users] How does BackupPC work?

2009-02-18 Thread Les Mikesell
John Goerzen wrote: > > First off, I gather that it keeps a hardlinked pool of data, so > whenever a file changes on any host, on the backup device, it will be > hardlinked to a file containing the same data, regardless of the host > it came from, right? > > So, given that, I don't really underst

Re: [BackupPC-users] How does BackupPC work?

2009-02-18 Thread Tino Schwarze
Hi Bowie, On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:26:16PM -0500, Bowie Bailey wrote: > > So, given that, I don't really understand why there is a distinction > > between a full and an incremental backup. Shouldn't either one take > > up the same amount of space? That is, if you've got few changes on > > the

Re: [BackupPC-users] How does BackupPC work?

2009-02-18 Thread Tino Schwarze
Hi John, On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:58:14AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > I've been reading docs on BackupPC and I have a few questions about > how it works. > > First off, I gather that it keeps a hardlinked pool of data, so > whenever a file changes on any host, on the backup device, it will be

Re: [BackupPC-users] How does BackupPC work?

2009-02-18 Thread Bowie Bailey
John Goerzen wrote: > Hi, > > I've been reading docs on BackupPC and I have a few questions about > how it works. > > First off, I gather that it keeps a hardlinked pool of data, so > whenever a file changes on any host, on the backup device, it will be > hardlinked to a file containing the same

[BackupPC-users] How does BackupPC work?

2009-02-18 Thread John Goerzen
Hi, I've been reading docs on BackupPC and I have a few questions about how it works. First off, I gather that it keeps a hardlinked pool of data, so whenever a file changes on any host, on the backup device, it will be hardlinked to a file containing the same data, regardless of the host it came

Re: [BackupPC-users] scp only

2009-02-18 Thread Jeff Folsom
I have a scripted setup for our mixed Cisco and Procurve network, that ssh's into each switch/router and dumps backup data to a secured tftp server, the tftp server is then backed up via BackupPC. Jeff Folsom Marriott Library, University of Utah Terri Kelley wrote: > I am wanting to backup t

Re: [BackupPC-users] rsync with windows sfu

2009-02-18 Thread Dnk
On 18-Feb-09, at 12:28 AM, Pramathesh Ambasta > wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:04 AM, royden yates wrote: On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 21:38 +0530, Pramathesh Ambasta wrote: > I am very new to backuppc. I have made an installation on a Ubuntu > Server (8.04). The plan is to backup some mach

Re: [BackupPC-users] scp only

2009-02-18 Thread Adam Goryachev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I recall seeing an announcement suggesting the FTP was now a standard method for backuppc to do backups with, are your routers capable of that? If not, you could probably adjust the FTP method to use scp... Actually, what about sftp ? Does the server/r

Re: [BackupPC-users] scp only

2009-02-18 Thread Jon Craig
This really isn't the bailiwick of backup software. What I do on my Cisco SAN switches is use ssh to pull a config from each of the switches (had to setup ssh to access wo/ password). I then save the config in SCCS when their are differences between the current version and the prior version. Th

Re: [BackupPC-users] scp only

2009-02-18 Thread Tino Schwarze
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 08:59:36PM -0600, Terri Kelley wrote: > I am wanting to backup the config on tons of routers I have but they > do not support rsync. They do support ssh and scp. > I have found a script where on a normal nix box where it will run > through a node list and retrieve the ba

Re: [BackupPC-users] rsync with windows sfu

2009-02-18 Thread Pramathesh Ambasta
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:04 AM, royden yates wrote: > On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 21:38 +0530, Pramathesh Ambasta wrote: > > I am very new to backuppc. I have made an installation on a Ubuntu > > Server (8.04). The plan is to backup some machines on a small network > > which has winXP machines. I want

Re: [BackupPC-users] rsync with windows sfu

2009-02-18 Thread Pramathesh Ambasta
Thanks for this prompt response. I looked at the website and will give it a try Pramathesh On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Doug Lytle wrote: > Pramathesh Ambasta wrote: > > I am very new to backuppc. I have made an installation on a Ubuntu > > Server (8.04). The plan is to backup some machines