Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC "TopDir" To New Larger Hard Drive

2013-07-23 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 1:28 PM, wrote: >> > I also have lost an entire BackupPC partition when resize2fs failed > at a critical juncture... that is part of the reason that I now run 2 > parallel BackupPC systems with the primary one doing daily > incrementals/weekly fulls, and the secondary jus

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC "TopDir" To New Larger Hard Drive

2013-07-23 Thread backuppc
Holger Parplies wrote at about 20:16:49 +0200 on Tuesday, July 23, 2013: > Hi, > > Richard Shaw wrote on 2013-07-23 12:43:19 -0500 [Re: [BackupPC-users] Move > BackupPC "TopDir" To New Larger Hard Drive]: > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Holger Parplies

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC "TopDir" To New Larger Hard Drive

2013-07-23 Thread Holger Parplies
Hi, Richard Shaw wrote on 2013-07-23 12:43:19 -0500 [Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC "TopDir" To New Larger Hard Drive]: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Holger Parplies wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > backu...@kosowsky.org wrote on 2013-07-23 09:01:09 -0

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC "TopDir" To New Larger Hard Drive

2013-07-23 Thread Richard Shaw
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Holger Parplies wrote: > Hi, > > backu...@kosowsky.org wrote on 2013-07-23 09:01:09 -0400 [Re: > [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC "TopDir" To New Larger Hard Drive]: > > Aaron Cossey wrote at about 14:13:26 +0200 on Tuesday, July 23

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC "TopDir" To New Larger Hard Drive

2013-07-23 Thread Holger Parplies
Hi, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote on 2013-07-23 09:01:09 -0400 [Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC "TopDir" To New Larger Hard Drive]: > Aaron Cossey wrote at about 14:13:26 +0200 on Tuesday, July 23, 2013: > > Sorry but all those pipes are going to slow the transfer > >

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC "TopDir" To New Larger Hard Drive

2013-07-23 Thread Arnold Krille
Am 2013-07-23 11:02, schrieb Tyler J. Wagner: > On 2013-07-23 00:54, rblake3 wrote: >> What am I missing? What can I do to efficiently get the data copied >> from >> olddrive to newdrive without this problem? > The fastest way to do this is to do a blockwise copy of the old > drive/partition to t

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC "TopDir" To New Larger Hard Drive

2013-07-23 Thread backuppc
Aaron Cossey wrote at about 14:13:26 +0200 on Tuesday, July 23, 2013: > Sorry but all those pipes are going to slow the transfer > needlessly. While I too use SIGINFO, I doubt the extra pv pipe will slow anything down given that disk read/write is by FAR the rate limiting step... > To see > t

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC "TopDir" To New Larger Hard Drive

2013-07-23 Thread backuppc
Tyler J. Wagner wrote at about 10:07:51 +0100 on Tuesday, July 23, 2013: > On 2013-07-23 10:02, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: > > dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/dev/sdc1 bs=1M > > For those not familiar with dd, it doesn't display progress when working. > And dd'ing a 2 TB drive can take a long time. If you wa

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC "TopDir" To New Larger Hard Drive

2013-07-23 Thread Aaron Cossey
Sorry but all those pipes are going to slow the transfer needlessly. To see the progress of a running dd process, just send it SIGINFO : dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/dev/sdc1 bs=1M & ddpid=$! kill -USR1 $ddpid Aaron Cossey aaron.cos...@gmail.com On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Tyler J. Wagner wrote:

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC "TopDir" To New Larger Hard Drive

2013-07-23 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On 2013-07-23 10:02, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: > dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/dev/sdc1 bs=1M For those not familiar with dd, it doesn't display progress when working. And dd'ing a 2 TB drive can take a long time. If you want progress, use this: dd dd if=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M | pv | dd of=/dev/sdc1 bs=1M pv is gre

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC "TopDir" To New Larger Hard Drive

2013-07-23 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On 2013-07-23 00:54, rblake3 wrote: > What am I missing? What can I do to efficiently get the data copied from > olddrive to newdrive without this problem? The fastest way to do this is to do a blockwise copy of the old drive/partition to the new, then expand the filesystem with resize2fs or par

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC "TopDir" To New Larger Hard Drive

2013-07-22 Thread David Trebacz
I documented my move in a blog post back in 2009: http://blog.trebacz.com/2009/10/my-weekend-linux-maintenance-activities.html I think your process may be simpler and more complete possibly, but I offer mine as a potential alternative. David Trebacz Email: da...@trebacz.com Tel: 815-344-9068 Mob

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC "TopDir" To New Larger Hard Drive

2013-07-22 Thread rblake3
>Short answer is you need to copy the pool and the individual pc >subdirectory on each invocation for rsync. > >Regards, >Adam Michal, Jeffrey, and Adam, Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. You are right, I have no idea why I was trying to do it the way I was. I actually did sear

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC "TopDir" To New Larger Hard Drive

2013-07-22 Thread Adam Goryachev
On 23/07/13 09:54, rblake3 wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to move data from a 2TB hard drive to a 3TB drive and am having > space issues. I am using: > > rsync -aHAXv --delete --progress /mnt/olddrive/ /mnt/newdrive/ > > To copy the data from the old to the new. I noticed that this process > tan

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC "TopDir" To New Larger Hard Drive

2013-07-22 Thread backuppc
rblake3 wrote at about 19:54:55 -0400 on Monday, July 22, 2013: > Hello, > > I am trying to move data from a 2TB hard drive to a 3TB drive and am having > space issues. I am using: > > rsync -aHAXv --delete --progress /mnt/olddrive/ /mnt/newdrive/ > > To copy the data from the old to t

[BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC "TopDir" To New Larger Hard Drive

2013-07-22 Thread rblake3
Hello, I am trying to move data from a 2TB hard drive to a 3TB drive and am having space issues. I am using: rsync -aHAXv --delete --progress /mnt/olddrive/ /mnt/newdrive/ To copy the data from the old to the new. I noticed that this process tanked so I ended up running it for individual fol

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC

2008-08-09 Thread dan
quite simply, raid5 syncronizes platters and has a wait for parity writes, which leads to a 1:x-1 performance hit because of that parity compute, wait, write for each block. on smaller arrays such as a 3 device raid5, that is 1:(3-1) or 1:2 which is 1 parity write to 2 data writes or 1/3 of all wr

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC

2008-08-08 Thread Les Mikesell
Holger Parplies wrote: >>> specifically, write speed is less that half >>> that of a raid1 and way less than a raid0+1. > > I would find interesting what kind of setup you get that sort of performance > with (hardware or software RAID, disk speed, number of spindles, RAM size, > $Conf{MaxBackup

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC

2008-08-08 Thread Holger Parplies
Hi, Diederik De Deckere wrote on 2008-08-08 16:43:54 +0200 [Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC]: > Op 8-aug-08, om 16:01 heeft Daniel Denson het volgende geschreven: > > you should start a new thread instead of hijacking an existing one. > > Sorry, I didn't know. Google did

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC

2008-08-08 Thread Diederik De Deckere
Rich Rauenzahn wrote: > > > I'm using RAID5 at home across 4x500GB drives to backup our home > machines and another across the internet. Space efficiency was > more important to me than speed and I don't have any problems using > RAID5. So it really depends on your use case and priorities.

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC

2008-08-08 Thread Rich Rauenzahn
Diederik De Deckere wrote: anyway. you should consider NOT moving to raid5 as it is very very slow with backuppc. specifically, write speed is less that half that of a raid1 and way less than a raid0+1. I'm not sure if speed is an issue here since all backups are taken over night.

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC

2008-08-08 Thread Diederik De Deckere
Op 8-aug-08, om 16:01 heeft Daniel Denson het volgende geschreven: > you should start a new thread instead of hijacking an existing one. > Sorry, I didn't know. Google didn't gave me any hits so I asked it here. > anyway. you should consider NOT moving to raid5 as it is very very > slow wi

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC

2008-08-08 Thread Daniel Denson
: Diederik De Deckere wrote on 2008-08-07 19:47:38 +0200 [[BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC]: Hi, Were're about to change one of our backup server from raid1 to raid5. What would be the safest way to backup BackupPC and restore it to the new system? http://www.cat

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC

2008-08-07 Thread Holger Parplies
Hi, Diederik De Deckere wrote on 2008-08-07 23:08:26 +0200 [Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC]: > Holger Parplies wrote: > > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > I'm confused. Where did I go wrong? well, there's one currently active thread in the m

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC

2008-08-07 Thread Les Mikesell
Diederik De Deckere wrote: > > Partitions won' have the same size. > The system on my 3 year old Poweredge 2950 right now is Mandriva but > all other servers are CentOS. So I want to use CentOS on that server > too. > There are 6 disks in the server: 2x250-2x250-2x500, which is good for > 1

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC

2008-08-07 Thread Diederik De Deckere
dnk wrote: > > > But back onto topic, I suspect (but have not tested or done) one > could just clone the drive to an external source... modify the raid > configuration, rebuild the raid and assuming partitions are the same > size (and same hardware), just clone it back? > > That is a first th

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC

2008-08-07 Thread Sam Przyswa
Holger Parplies a écrit : > Diederik De Deckere wrote on 2008-08-07 19:47:38 +0200 [[BackupPC-users] > Move BackupPC]: > >> Hi, >> >> Were're about to change one of our backup server from raid1 to raid5. >> What would be the safest way to backup B

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC

2008-08-07 Thread Diederik De Deckere
Holger Parplies wrote: > Diederik De Deckere wrote on 2008-08-07 19:47:38 +0200 [[BackupPC- > users] Move BackupPC]: >> Hi, >> >> Were're about to change one of our backup server from raid1 to raid5. >> What would be the safest way to backup BackupPC

Re: [BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC

2008-08-07 Thread Holger Parplies
Diederik De Deckere wrote on 2008-08-07 19:47:38 +0200 [[BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC]: > Hi, > > Were're about to change one of our backup server from raid1 to raid5. > What would be the safest way to backup BackupPC and restore it to the > new system? http://ww

[BackupPC-users] Move BackupPC

2008-08-07 Thread Diederik De Deckere
Hi, Were're about to change one of our backup server from raid1 to raid5. What would be the safest way to backup BackupPC and restore it to the new system? Thanks for all suggestions. -- Diederik De Deckere - This S