Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread Luis Paulo
I like ubuntu server LTS (long term support) Editions to run BackupP :) A new LTS is planned for April On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 1/27/2010 2:26 PM, Chris Robertson wrote: > >> Package managers are different on both. CentOS uses the RPM (Redhat > Package > >> Man

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/27/2010 2:26 PM, Chris Robertson wrote: >> Package managers are different on both. CentOS uses the RPM (Redhat Package >> Manager), while Debian uses APT. I think APT works much better. Debian >> definitely resolves dependencies much better than others. >> > > CentOS uses YUM (Yellowdog Update

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/27/2010 1:48 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > >> You can 'sudo su -' to get a root terminal if you want. That even works >> on a Mac, which they seem to want to emulate. > > sudo -i is even easier. But that's a special case to remember, where you probably already knew what sudo does and what 'su -'

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread Max Hetrick
John Hudak wrote: > Hmmm would you detail the steps needed to do this?: > > " But, I'm also using autofs to mount across Samba to back up a Windows > machine or two on my home network, and I'm NOT running Samba as a > domain, I'm simply mounting the file systems as CIFS/SMB using the > appropriate

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread Max Hetrick
John Hudak wrote: > Hmmm would you detail the steps needed to do this?: > > " But, I'm also using autofs to mount across Samba to back up a Windows > machine or two on my home network, and I'm NOT running Samba as a > domain, I'm simply mounting the file systems as CIFS/SMB using the > appropriate

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread Chris Robertson
Chris Baker wrote: > I don't know what your level of expertise is. Please accept my apology if > you already know this. > > The two particular distributions you mentioned are pretty different. Debian > basically started as its own branch of distribtuion, and other distributions > like Ubuntu and Me

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 01/27 12:16 , Les Mikesell wrote: > You can 'sudo su -' to get a root terminal if you want. That even works > on a Mac, which they seem to want to emulate. 'sudo bash' works, in addition to the other suggestions put forth. there's an easy fix. just set a root pw on an Ubuntu box and the conv

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread Sean Dague
On 01/27/2010 01:16 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 1/27/2010 10:04 AM, John Hudak wrote: >> >> Pet peve: One issue that I have found quite annoying is that the >> Debian/Ubuntu branches have their own structure of where to put >> applications and utilities in the file structure. I came from a Bell >

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread John Hudak
Hmmm would you detail the steps needed to do this?: " But, I'm also using autofs to mount across Samba to back up a Windows machine or two on my home network, and I'm NOT running Samba as a domain, I'm simply mounting the file systems as CIFS/SMB using the appropriate local LOCAL_COMPUTER\USERNAME

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread John Hudak
thanks, I didn't know about sudo su - -John On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 1/27/2010 10:04 AM, John Hudak wrote: > > > > Pet peve: One issue that I have found quite annoying is that the > > Debian/Ubuntu branches have their own structure of where to put > > application

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/27/2010 10:04 AM, John Hudak wrote: > > Pet peve: One issue that I have found quite annoying is that the > Debian/Ubuntu branches have their own structure of where to put > applications and utilities in the file structure. I came from a Bell > Labs/ATT/BDS UNIX background and have used Slackw

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On Wednesday 27 January 2010 15:59:43 Sorin Srbu wrote: > For me it was a practical choice choosing CentOS because on the > CentOS-Wiki, there is a rather full howto for installing and setting up > BackupPC. For the same reasons, I use Ubuntu. The mini-howto is: apt-get install backuppc browse

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread Max Hetrick
John Hudak wrote: > Thanks for posting the pointer. After reading thorough it, I strongly > disagree with the statement "Easiest choice for WinXX"Easiest is a > matter of perspective, and trying to figure out XP/Win7 file protection > protocols so that it will play nice with Samba, is more

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread Jeff Schmidt
and >>support >>Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice >> >>>>-Original Message- >>> Would it be a significant improvement, generally speaking, to use xfs >>> instead of ext3 on a BackupPC-server? >> >>Definitely. > > Woul

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread John Hudak
Hi Max: Thanks for posting the pointer. After reading thorough it, I strongly disagree with the statement "Easiest choice for WinXX"Easiest is a matter of perspective, and trying to figure out XP/Win7 file protection protocols so that it will play nice with Samba, is more than a little challen

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread Michael Stowe
>>-Original Message- >>From: Michael Stowe [mailto:mst...@chicago.us.mensa.org] >>Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:31 PM >>To: sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se; General list for user discussion, questions > and >>support >>Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Dis

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: Michael Stowe [mailto:mst...@chicago.us.mensa.org] >Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:31 PM >To: sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se; General list for user discussion, questions and >support >Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice > >

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread John Hudak
Hello: One thing that needs to be considered is the number of machines and the amount of data to be backed up. The robustness of the file system then becomes and issue, as pointed out earlier. This to me seems like the biggest artifact to consider. >From the perspective of 'working out of the bo

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/27/2010 9:08 AM, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: > On 01/27 02:21 , Huw Wyn Jones wrote: >> Is there much difference between Linux distros when it comes to building a >> new Backuppc server from scratch? I'm thinking of going for either CentOS >> or Debian but I was curious if anyone had any co

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread Max Hetrick
Huw Wyn Jones wrote: > Is there much difference between Linux distros when it comes to building a > new Backuppc server from scratch? I'm thinking of going for either CentOS or > Debian but I was curious if anyone had any comments or insight on the matter. When it comes to this kind of thing, i

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: Huw Wyn Jones [mailto:huw.jo...@meirion-dwyfor.ac.uk] >Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:21 PM >To: backuppc-users >Subject: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice > >Me again! :-) > >Is there much difference between Linux distros when

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread Michael Stowe
>>-Original Message- > Would it be a significant improvement, generally speaking, to use xfs > instead of ext3 on a BackupPC-server? > > -- > /Sorin Definitely. -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread Chris Baker
I don't know what your level of expertise is. Please accept my apology if you already know this. The two particular distributions you mentioned are pretty different. Debian basically started as its own branch of distribtuion, and other distributions like Ubuntu and Mepis are derived from it. Cent

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: Michael Stowe [mailto:mst...@chicago.us.mensa.org] >Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:07 PM >To: General list for user discussion, questions and support >Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice > >Since BackupPC specifically puts str

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread Mark Phillips
I have used Debian extensively and it works just great with Backuppc. No issues. Version 3.1.0 (the latest) is in stable, testing, and experimental. A simple aptitude install backuppc works fine. I haven't used CentOS, so I can't comment on that, Mark On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Huw Wyn Jone

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 01/27 02:21 , Huw Wyn Jones wrote: > Is there much difference between Linux distros when it comes to building a > new Backuppc server from scratch? I'm thinking of going for either CentOS > or Debian but I was curious if anyone had any comments or insight on the > matter. Debian all the way. Be

Re: [BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread Michael Stowe
As a general statement, the main difference between Linux distributions is their focus, their package systems, and what's included. Since BackupPC specifically puts stress upon a filesystem, I'd be inclined to select a distribution that provides xfs and/or jfs. Some Linux distributions have Back

[BackupPC-users] Distro choice

2010-01-27 Thread Huw Wyn Jones
Me again! :-) Is there much difference between Linux distros when it comes to building a new Backuppc server from scratch? I'm thinking of going for either CentOS or Debian but I was curious if anyone had any comments or insight on the matter. TIA Huw -- Huw Wyn Jones Systems Administrator