Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-07 Thread Adam Goryachev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Inno wrote: > It's interesting to me because a lot of files are used during > business hours. Suddenly I was wondering the repercussions it could > have in your Backup ? In my experience, it doesn't cause any issues. There are a couple of factors to

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-07 Thread Inno
It's interesting to me because a lot of files are used during business hours. Suddenly I was wondering the repercussions it could have in your Backup ? > De : "Inno" > Have you no problem with files used during the business hours ? > > > De : "Adam Goryachev" > > Also, I frequently add bwlimit

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-06 Thread Les Mikesell
On 5/6/2010 8:19 AM, Boniforti Flavio wrote: > >> On slow connections it will help to add the -C (compress) >> option to the ssh command. Be sure you exclude any areas or >> big files you don't need to back up (like the slocate db on >> linux boxes, etc.). If you do several remote backups, don't

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-06 Thread Boniforti Flavio
> > What can you people suggest? Les, do you have some specific advices? > > On slow connections it will help to add the -C (compress) > option to the ssh command. Be sure you exclude any areas or > big files you don't need to back up (like the slocate db on > linux boxes, etc.). If you do s

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-06 Thread Les Mikesell
Boniforti Flavio wrote: > Hello people. > >> For the machines being backed up over the internet, I'd >> recommend setting IncrLevels to 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 in order to >> minimize your bandwidth usage. > > I'm popping into this thread because I'm also running "outsourced > backups" (me calling the

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-06 Thread Les Mikesell
Boniforti Flavio wrote: > Hy Inno, > >> Hello, >> >> Maybe increase Full period if you use rsync ? > > what would that be causing, in positive terms? I wouldn't do that - rsync fulls take longer in wall clock time because they read all the files, but they don't take a lot more bandwidth and don

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-06 Thread Boniforti Flavio
Hy Tyler, > Rob's right. Running with IncrLevels = 1 means that every > incremental will download every file with a modification time > newer than the last Full. Using 6 incrementals with levels > 1, 2, ... etc, will just mean that files must differ from the > last good incremental to be dow

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-06 Thread Inno
Have you no problem with files used during the business hours ? > De : "Adam Goryachev" > Also, I frequently add bwlimit to rsync so it doesn't 'flood' the remote > link during backups. This can allow me to do some backups during periods > which would otherwise not be possible (ie, business hours

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-06 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On Thursday 06 May 2010 08:36:35 Adam Goryachev wrote: > Also, I frequently add bwlimit to rsync so it doesn't 'flood' the remote > link during backups. This can allow me to do some backups during periods > which would otherwise not be possible (ie, business hours). Me too. For any wireless lapto

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-06 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On Wednesday 05 May 2010 23:02:14 Rob Owens wrote: > For the machines being backed up over the internet, I'd recommend > setting IncrLevels to 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 in order to minimize your > bandwidth usage. Rob's right. Running with IncrLevels = 1 means that every incremental will download every f

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-06 Thread Boniforti Flavio
Hello there. > Enable checksum-caching, modify IncrLevels so that you don't > re-transfer more and more data during each incremental. Could you please explain more in depth what both suggestions could benefit? > Also, I frequently add bwlimit to rsync so it doesn't 'flood' > the remote link du

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-06 Thread Boniforti Flavio
Hy Inno, > Hello, > > Maybe increase Full period if you use rsync ? what would that be causing, in positive terms? F. -- ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-06 Thread Boniforti Flavio
> And as Rob say : > > For the machines being backed up over the internet, I'd recommend > > setting IncrLevels to 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 in order to minimize your > > bandwidth usage. OK, and what would the above change result in? What would the benefit be? Thanks, F. -

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-06 Thread Adam Goryachev
ort" >> >> Copie à : >> Objet : Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup >> >> >> Hello people. >> >>> For the machines being backed up over the internet, I'd >>> recommend setting IncrLevels to 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 in order to &

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-06 Thread Inno
And as Rob say : > For the machines being backed up over the internet, I'd > recommend setting IncrLevels to 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 in order to > minimize your bandwidth usage. > De : "Boniforti Flavio" > I can tell you that I'd like to lower some data transfer durations for > at least two of my remote

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-06 Thread Inno
Hello, Maybe increase Full period if you use rsync ? > Message du 06/05/10 à 08h38 > De : "Boniforti Flavio" > A : "General list for user discussion,questions and support" > > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup > > &

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-05 Thread Boniforti Flavio
Hello people. > For the machines being backed up over the internet, I'd > recommend setting IncrLevels to 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 in order to > minimize your bandwidth usage. I'm popping into this thread because I'm also running "outsourced backups" (me calling them "remote backups"). I'm successfully

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-05 Thread Rob Owens
On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 11:08:51AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 5/4/2010 9:38 AM, Inno wrote: > > It's a very good idea. But with this solution I am forced to do a single > > full then incrementals. And I'm not sure the speed of upload will be > > sufficient. > > Rsync full backups still only

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-04 Thread Inno
net > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup > > > On 5/4/2010 10:42 AM, Erik Hjertén wrote: > > Les Mikesell skrev 2010-05-04 14:50: > >> Inno wrote: > >> > >>> I have not a decent internet connectivity and I have more than 500

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-04 Thread Inno
I will look at how much data changes each day. I'm perplexed though your solution seems the best. > Message du 04/05/10 à 17h26 > De : "Kameleon" > A : "General list for user discussion questions and support" > > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [Back

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-04 Thread Les Mikesell
On 5/4/2010 10:42 AM, Erik Hjertén wrote: > Les Mikesell skrev 2010-05-04 14:50: >> Inno wrote: >> >>> I have not a decent internet connectivity and I have more than 500 GB. >>> >>> >> With rsync the size doesn't matter much after you get the initial copy (which >> you might take on-site and carry

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-04 Thread Les Mikesell
On 5/4/2010 9:38 AM, Inno wrote: > It's a very good idea. But with this solution I am forced to do a single full > then incrementals. And I'm not sure the speed of upload will be sufficient. Rsync full backups still only transfer the differences from the last full. They run slower than incremen

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-04 Thread Erik Hjertén
Les Mikesell skrev 2010-05-04 14:50: Inno wrote: I have not a decent internet connectivity and I have more than 500 GB. With rsync the size doesn't matter much after you get the initial copy (which you might take on-site and carry over or let it run over a weekend). The bandwidth/ti

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-04 Thread Kameleon
t; Message du 04/05/10 à 16h15 > > De : "Kameleon" > > A : in...@voila.fr, "General list for user discussion, questions and > support" > > Copie à : > > Objet : Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup > > > > What I would do is this: > &

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-04 Thread Les Mikesell
On 5/4/2010 8:55 AM, Inno wrote: > I will test it (but I want a full backup every week). We have a connection > with 250 KB/s. > > My goal is not to centralize backups so I wondered if my solution will be > good. > > Imagine if the company burns or HDD breaks. For me it's better to have two > HD

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-04 Thread Inno
ist for user discussion, questions and support" > > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup > > What I would do is this: > > Setup backuppc for company A at the company B location > Setup backuppc for company B at the company A location > >

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-04 Thread Kameleon
Message du 04/05/10 à 15h23 > > De : "Kameleon" > > A : "General list for user discussion,questions and support" < > backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > > Copie à : > > Objet : Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup > > > > This is v

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-04 Thread Inno
ort" > > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup > > This is very true. We have 4 remote sites, 2 T1's (1.5megabit up and down) > and 2 DSL (1.5megabit down x 256 kilobit up) and have a central backuppc > server located in-house that backs up those 4 s

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-04 Thread Kameleon
This is very true. We have 4 remote sites, 2 T1's (1.5megabit up and down) and 2 DSL (1.5megabit down x 256 kilobit up) and have a central backuppc server located in-house that backs up those 4 server and 10 more in house on the local fiber network. The only issue was the initial full on the 2 DSL

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-04 Thread Les Mikesell
Inno wrote: > Hello, > > Can you see a problem in this thinking : > > We have two business building not connected between them. > Servers are not the same. > I would like outsourcing data. > Backups are done on two Ethernet HDD. > > So I imagined this: > Company A - Full backup on Friday night.

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-04 Thread Les Mikesell
Inno wrote: > I have not a decent internet connectivity and I have more than 500 GB. > With rsync the size doesn't matter much after you get the initial copy (which you might take on-site and carry over or let it run over a weekend). The bandwidth/time you need nightly would depend on the rate

Re: [BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-04 Thread Inno
I have not a decent internet connectivity and I have more than 500 GB. > Message du 04/05/10 à 14h19 > De : "Les Mikesell" > A : in...@voila.fr, "General list for user discussion, questions and support" > > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [BackupPC-users]

[BackupPC-users] Outsourcing backup

2010-05-04 Thread Inno
Hello, Can you see a problem in this thinking : We have two business building not connected between them. Servers are not the same. I would like outsourcing data. Backups are done on two Ethernet HDD. So I imagined this: Company A - Full backup on Friday night. Incremental backup every day. Comp