Re: [BackupPC-users] failed partial backups deleting files from previous partials

2007-10-02 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 09/28 11:34 , Rob Owens wrote: > Very interesting discussion. Here's a link to an article on backups > that you've probably all seen, but it's very interesting: > http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/ I haven't seen that, and it was very clever. Learned about some features of rsy

Re: [BackupPC-users] failed partial backups deleting files from previous partials

2007-09-28 Thread Rob Owens
Craig Barratt wrote: > Les writes: > >> But will you still be able to restore the file state as of each separate >> run? Sometimes the reason you are restoring is that the current version >> is a mess. The issue could probably be avoided with a complete tree >> link copy before starting followe

Re: [BackupPC-users] failed partial backups deleting files from previous partials

2007-09-26 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 09/26 04:31 , Craig Barratt wrote: > Rsync didn't get added to BackupPC until 2.0.0, so the > architecture didn't consider how rsync typically works. ah, ok. I've only used it since 2.0.1 I think. I always guessed that rsync was the original transport mechanism, and the others were added later.

Re: [BackupPC-users] failed partial backups deleting files from previous partials

2007-09-26 Thread Craig Barratt
Les writes: > But will you still be able to restore the file state as of each separate > run? Sometimes the reason you are restoring is that the current version > is a mess. The issue could probably be avoided with a complete tree > link copy before starting followed by in in-place update, but t

Re: [BackupPC-users] failed partial backups deleting files from previous partials

2007-09-26 Thread Craig Barratt
Carl writes: > ah, I see. > I think I see some of the arguments for doing things this way, but what was > *your* reasoning when you first designed this architecture? It's rather > unusual compared to the other rsync-backup programs I've seen (or built). Rsync didn't get added to BackupPC until 2.

Re: [BackupPC-users] failed partial backups deleting files from previous partials

2007-09-25 Thread Les Mikesell
Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: >>> My understanding of how BackupPC works in this regard is imperfect. Why >>> can't the old partial backup be updated, in the way that conventional rsync >>> updates an old copy? >> BackupPC doesn't do anything in place on the server. It always >> creates a new dir

Re: [BackupPC-users] failed partial backups deleting files from previous partials

2007-09-25 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 09/24 12:38 , Craig Barratt wrote: > > My understanding of how BackupPC works in this regard is imperfect. Why > > can't the old partial backup be updated, in the way that conventional rsync > > updates an old copy? > > BackupPC doesn't do anything in place on the server. It always > creates a

Re: [BackupPC-users] failed partial backups deleting files from previous partials

2007-09-24 Thread Craig Barratt
Carl writes: > > It depends on XferMethod. For rsync it should not delete files from a > > partial. For smb and tar, it starts a new transfer, and if any files > > get transfered (even if less than the prior partial), the new partial > > replaces the old. I should change that so it doesn't save

Re: [BackupPC-users] failed partial backups deleting files from previous partials

2007-09-18 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
Apologies for the slow response on this. I've been preoccupied with a Very Large Project for the past 3 weeks. On 09/06 05:57 , Craig Barratt wrote: > Carl writes: > > BackupPC does not pick up where a 'partial' transfer left off in many cases. > > I don't fully understand the mechanism (tho it is

Re: [BackupPC-users] failed partial backups deleting files from previous partials

2007-09-06 Thread Craig Barratt
Carl writes: > BackupPC does not pick up where a 'partial' transfer left off in many cases. > I don't fully understand the mechanism (tho it is somewhat explained here: > http://osdir.com/ml/sysutils.backup.backuppc.general/2004-08/msg00013.html > ); but the result is that perfectly good files are

Re: [BackupPC-users] failed partial backups deleting files from previous partials

2007-07-25 Thread Rob Owens
This happened to me again last night. I lost 2 GB of partial transfer (which took a long time to get -- uploaded from a home internet connection). One way to fix this would be to do a straight rsync of the files to a temporary location, then let BackupPC do its thing, integrating the new files in

Re: [BackupPC-users] failed partial backups deleting files from previous partials

2007-07-24 Thread Rob Owens
I'm also going do be depending on this feature shortly (not discarding partial transfers), so I second Carl's proposal. -Rob Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: > BackupPC does not pick up where a 'partial' transfer left off in many cases. > I don't fully understand the mechanism (tho it is somewhat e

[BackupPC-users] failed partial backups deleting files from previous partials

2007-07-24 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
BackupPC does not pick up where a 'partial' transfer left off in many cases. I don't fully understand the mechanism (tho it is somewhat explained here: http://osdir.com/ml/sysutils.backup.backuppc.general/2004-08/msg00013.html ); but the result is that perfectly good files are deleted from the part