Re: [Bacula-users] waiting on max Storage jobs

2011-03-23 Thread Dan Langille
On 3/19/2011 11:29 AM, Dan Langille wrote: > On 3/4/2011 7:32 AM, Dan Langille wrote: >> This situation occurs often. Usually every morning. If I cancel the top >> job (in this ca 54502), the other jobs will proceed. >> >> >> >> Running Jobs: >> Console connected at 04-Mar-11 12:23 >> JobId Le

Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula and 16 bay JBOD

2011-03-23 Thread Alan Brown
Chris Hoogendyk wrote: > > After that, I convinced management to pay for mirrored drives. > How much was the overtime bill? ;) -- Enable your software for Intel(R) Active Management Technology to meet the growing mana

Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula and 16 bay JBOD

2011-03-23 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
On 3/23/11 12:51 PM, Alan Brown wrote: > Mehma Sarja wrote: >> Since drives ONLY fail on Friday afternoons local time, an effective >> remedy is to check for SMART messages before the weekend. Foolish as >> that is, I am surprised how many times it has held true for me. > For similar reasons we o

Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula and 16 bay JBOD

2011-03-23 Thread Alan Brown
Mehma Sarja wrote: > Since drives ONLY fail on Friday afternoons local time, an effective > remedy is to check for SMART messages before the weekend. Foolish as > that is, I am surprised how many times it has held true for me. For similar reasons we only perform work on critical infrastructure

Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula and 16 bay JBOD

2011-03-23 Thread Mehma Sarja
On 3/23/11 7:28 AM, Alan Brown wrote: > Phil Stracchino wrote: > >> Well, a good start is to use something like SMART monitoring set up to >> alert you when any drive enters what it considers a pre-fail state. >> (Which can be simple age, increasing numbers of hard errors, increasing >> variation i

Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula and 16 bay JBOD

2011-03-23 Thread Alan Brown
John Drescher wrote: >> I haven't had as many die as you have (Do your users kick their computers >> around the room?) but my experience matches yours when looking at changes in >> the raw data. The problem is I haven't had enough die to put 100% certainty >> on it so I tend to rely on smartd's out

Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula and 16 bay JBOD

2011-03-23 Thread John Drescher
> I haven't had as many die as you have (Do your users kick their computers > around the room?) but my experience matches yours when looking at changes in > the raw data. The problem is I haven't had enough die to put 100% certainty > on it so I tend to rely on smartd's output. > I have between 10

Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula and 16 bay JBOD

2011-03-23 Thread Alan Brown
John Drescher wrote: > I would say this is true for smart PASS / FAIL but if you look at the > raw SMART data you can use this to predict failure before it totally > fails. I agree but they don't do that. > At least I have been able to predict this for the 10 to 20 > drives that have died here

Re: [Bacula-users] Roadwarriors break volumes

2011-03-23 Thread Alan Brown
Jacek Bilski wrote: > rsyncing won't work because it's a small installation, and the only > machine that could host rsynced data is the one with bacula pool of > volumes. But thanks anyway. Add a couple of extra disks dedicated for rsync purposes? Even an external USB will be fine. The initial

Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula and 16 bay JBOD

2011-03-23 Thread John Drescher
>> Well, a good start is to use something like SMART monitoring set up to >> alert you when any drive enters what it considers a pre-fail state. >> (Which can be simple age, increasing numbers of hard errors, increasing >> variation in spindle speed, increasing slow starts, etc, etc...) > > FWIW: N

Re: [Bacula-users] Troubles with bacula 2.4.4

2011-03-23 Thread Alan Brown
Wouter Verhelst wrote: > - Since things haven't really been running smoothly here, every time the > backup fails, the customer gets less happy with bacula. Are there any > other people here who run bacula to write fairly large volumes of data > to tape, and can they give me some pointers on

Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula and 16 bay JBOD

2011-03-23 Thread Alan Brown
Phil Stracchino wrote: > Well, a good start is to use something like SMART monitoring set up to > alert you when any drive enters what it considers a pre-fail state. > (Which can be simple age, increasing numbers of hard errors, increasing > variation in spindle speed, increasing slow starts, etc,

Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula and 16 bay JBOD

2011-03-23 Thread Alan Brown
Mehma Sarja wrote: > There is one more thing to think about and that is cumulative aging. > Starting with all new disks is a false sense of security because as they > age, and if they are in any sort of RAID/performance configuration, they > will age and wear evenly. Expanding on that: It is

Re: [Bacula-users] How to configure bacula for 6-day rotating backup

2011-03-23 Thread Alan Brown
MiƂosz Kosobucki wrote: > So, > > is there any way to keep 7 days of backup that doesn't require having > two full backups on disk at any point? > My opinion: If you don't have _at least_ 2 full backups on disk or tape for a fileset at any given instant you aren't doing it properly (Grandfat