Hello,

my name is Maik Außendorf, I am a member of the Bareos project and co-founder 
of the Bareos company. I apologize for not using my original email address but 
that has been banned from this list withoout any given reason.

I attach my original footer below.

I just want to comment on 2 points:

1. The Free Software Foundation Europe  (FSFE) is the copyright holder
of Bacula open source. We've worked together with the FSFE to clear some
formal things in the version history and header files. I.E. some
copyright information had to be changed.

We've changed everything the way the FSFE has asked for. On August 12th
2013 the last mail from the FSFE stated, that they do not see any more
problems. Please read our FAQ article for full quotation:
https://www.bareos.org/en/faq/items/copyright_bacula_bareos.html

In that FAQ you can also find the history about the open source code fragments 
regarding the "bandwidth limitation" feature.

 2. GIT
Our sources are all on GIT Hub since late 2012. Before that the long
year Bacula community developer Marco van Wieringen has maintained his
own branch mainly with patches by him and other contributors that were
rejected by bacula.org. So a private thing but the only way to preserve
those contributions. After the decision was made to start an own project
based on that branch, it was published, is 100% AGPL and will stay so.

I don't want to comment on more, because these are the important things.
Everyone can reuse our code in a open source way (fully compliant with
AGPL). And everyone can choose whatever open source project he or she
likes best.

One more thing to add: we've given a fundamental value to the Bacula
community, too: the Bareos clients are compatible with Bacula daemons.
And there are repositories for almost all Linux distribution ready to
use + a rewritten Windows installer for the Windows client - ready to
install (graphical or even unattended by command line switches).

If you are missing a bacula client for your particular Linux distribution, 
MacOS or Windows, feel free to test our Bareos client with your Bacula director.

With kind regards.


-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
--
 Maik Außendorf                             maik.aussend...@bareos.com
 Bareos GmbH & Co. KG                       Phone: +49221630693-93
 http://www.bareos.com                      Fax: +49221630693-10

 Sitz der Gesellschaft: Köln | Amtsgericht Köln: HRA 29646
 Komplementär: Bareos Verwaltungs-GmbH
 Geschäftsführer: Stephan Dühr, M. Außendorf, 
 J. Steffens, P. Storz, M. v. Wieringen



 



 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Kern Sibbald <k...@sibbald.com>
To: bacula-users <bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net>; bacula-devel 
<bacula-de...@lists.sourceforge.net>; bacula-announce 
<bacula-annou...@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Mon, Nov 25, 2013 5:57 pm
Subject: [Bacula-users] Bacula Status Report


          
    Hello,
    
    I would like to speak to you about the following points:
    
    1. The rumors of the death  of Bacula (the Community version)
    2. The Bareos fork of Bacula
    3. Bacula Systems and the FSFE (Free Software Foundation Europe)
    4. The future of Bacula (the Community version)
    
    1. The rumors of the death of Bacula (the Community version):
    
    I borrow words from a quote of Mark Twain: The rumors of the death
    of Bacula are highly exaggerated!  
    
    I began working on Bacula 14 years ago (in January 2000), and it has
    been Open Source from the time it was publicly released in April
    2002, and it will remain Open Source.  I have been and am fully
    devoted to Open Source, and in particular to Bacula, which is like
    my “baby”.  So to hear rumors that Bacula is dead or that I have
    withheld commits because they are Enterprise features is shocking
    and hurtful to me as well as not true.
    
    I did inform the Bacula Community several years ago that my personal
    participation in Bacula would decrease a bit for several years to
    allow me to focus more on getting Bacula Systems started.  In my
    opinion, that has not been a serious disadvantage for the Bacula
    project since Bacula Systems over that period has contributed far
    more code to Bacula than I could have alone over the same period,
    and as you will see a bit later in this status report, Bacula
    Systems contributions are absolutely guaranteed to continue in the
    long run, and even increase.
    
    2. The Bareos fork of Bacula:
    
    The Bacula repository has been on “hold” since our last release
    in early February, because on 27 February 2013, I learned that there
    was a fork of Bacula made by a former “consultant” of Bacula
    Systems with a former reseller of Bacula Systems.  Unfortunately,
    despite the fact that Bareos hired one of the best German Open
    Source lawyers , there were a number of serious copyright violations
    with their code.  Since the Bacula code is copyrighted by the Free
    Software Foundation Europe (FSFE), I provided the technical support,
    and the FSFE worked with Bareos to clean up their copyright
    violations.  That took a significant amount of time (many months),
    and the Bareos code though significantly improved is still not
    totally free of copyright infringements.  I won't go into the
    details here as all of you may not be interested, but will have much
    more to say about Bareos in later blogs, and when the blog is setup
    I will let you know.
    
    I find Bareos an unusual fork, because it wasn't done in what I
    believe to be the normal Open Source way.  Normally a fork is made
    when a project is blocked or has serious disagreements with the
    users.  Its also normally done in open communication rather than
    underhanded or in secret.  In the case of Bacula, though some of the
    development slowed down (I will go into this in detail later), it
    certainly was by no means stopped.  To complain about active
    development in Bacula Systems, is, in my opinion, incorrect first
    because adding features to the Enterprise version costs Bacula
    Systems a lot mostly in salaries yet takes absolutely nothing from
    Bacula.  In fact, when you read the next section, you will see that
    the more that Bacula Systems develops, the more features that Bacula
    over time will have.  Going back to what I find abnormal about the
    Bareos fork is that they claim that they spent three years
    developing a lot of new features, thus they are more feature rich
    than Bacula.  Yes, for the moment, they have a few features that
    Bacula does not yet have, but not for long, and more importantly
    over the three years of development of those features they never
    offered these new features to Bacula nor to any Open Source project.
    Instead they were developed in secret.  I find that a very strange
    behavior for a self-proclaimed Open Source company (actually, they
    are “forced” to be Open Source because of the Bacula AGPLv3
    license).  So as Bacula contributors and users, you would be within
    your rights to feel very upset with Bareos, because they never
    offered you the code they developed.
    
    I assure that I will do all in my power to ensure that any
    worthwhile features that Bareos implements will be implemented in
    Bacula, and most likely better integrated and more robust, and where
    possible with even more functionality and growth potential.
    
    
    3. Bacula Systems and the FSFE:
    
    If you have been a long time Bacula user you may recall that I
    discussed the possibility in 2006-2007 of creating a company, now
    called Bacula Systems, to ensure the continuation of Bacula when I
    will no longer be able to personally contribute – say in 10 or 20
    years, as well as to provide the financial means to add high-end
    features to Bacula (a fibre channel network costs about $50K to
    setup).  Much to my surprise 95% or more of the responses I got were
    very positive.  Bacula Systems was created in July 2008, and for the
    first two years, the Enterprise code base and the Community code
    base were identical.  Unfortunately, that didn't work financially
    for Bacula Systems.  Companies willing to pay, were willing to pay
    for features and support but not support alone, so Bacula Systems
    embarked on development to continue maintenance and improvement of
    Bacula while at the same time creating mostly plugins to add
    differentiation to the Enterprise version.
    
    Now this may not sound very Open Source to you, and I understand,
    because I feel the same way.  Were it at all possible, I would give
    you all of Bacula Systems code, unfortunately, that is not
    economically feasible at the current time, and yet without Bacula
    Systems, I fear the Bacula project will die or worse yet fall into
    the hands of someone incapable of maintaining the high quality we
    have created.
    
    While I was consulting with the Free Software Foundation Europe
    (FSFE) on the Bareos copyright violations, Bacula Systems and I
    began discussions with the FSFE on how to guarantee the long term
    survival of Bacula.  These discussions, extremely positive on both
    sides and all points, recently lead to a formal written agreement
    between myself, Bacula Systems, and the FSFE. There are a number of
    points in the agreement, but probably the most important of all is
    that Bacula Systems has now put in writing that it is an Open Source
    company (at its heart), as it has always proclaimed, and will
    contribute all the Enterprise code it creates to the Bacula
    Community code base within at most a 5 year period.  One exception
    is that Bacula Systems is legally unable to contribute certain code
    encumbered by third party proprietary license.  The 5 year delay
    gives Bacula Systems the chance to develop Enterprise features that
    differentiate it, but ensures the continual growth of the Bacula
    Community code.  This model can possibly be used across the industry
    to ensure the future of open source software in an environment where
    development costs, particularly for hardware to do testing, are
    prohibitive to the standard models of today.
    
    5. The future of Bacula (the Community version):
    
    If you have read section 4 above, hopefully if you were not already
    convinced that Bacula is alive that you can now see that it will
    have a long and successful future ahead of it.  If you have any
    doubts, please do not hesitate to either send me an email on the
    bacula-users list or directly to me (if you want it private).
    Hopefully, by mid-December I will have a blog setup (need a major
    upgrade of bacula.org to do so), and I will then fill you in on the
    details of the Bareos fork as well as more details on what next to
    expect in Bacula.
    
    Thank you for contributing to and/or using Bacula ...
    
    Best regards,
    Kern
                  

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