[Bacula-users] Fwd: Re: Bacula massive security impact on network

2015-12-18 Thread H. Steuer
Hello Bill, you are right, but there is a serious side effect. Heres a statement from the Bacula docs: The first console type is an anonymous or default console, which has full privileges. There is no console resource necessary for this type since the password is specified in

Re: [Bacula-users] Fwd: Re: Bacula massive security impact on network

2015-12-18 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 12/18/15 11:34, H. Steuer wrote: > > Hello Bill, > > you are right, but there is a serious side effect. Heres a statement > from the Bacula docs: > > > The first console type is an anonymous or default console, which > has full privileges. There is no console resource necessary f

Re: [Bacula-users] Fwd: Re: Bacula massive security impact on network

2015-12-18 Thread Kern Sibbald
Hello, If you have hundreds of users with root access and they can access the Bacula Director machine as root, you have a far bigger security problem than just Bacula, since they can do anything to your machines and the Bacula Director machine, and there is

Re: [Bacula-users] Fwd: Re: Bacula massive security impact on network

2015-12-18 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 12/18/15 11:56, Kern Sibbald wrote: > Hello, > > If you have hundreds of users with root access and they can access the > Bacula Director machine as root, you have a far bigger security problem > than just Bacula, since they can do anything to your machines and the > Bacula Director machine, an

Re: [Bacula-users] Fwd: Re: Bacula massive security impact on network

2015-12-18 Thread H. Steuer
Hello Kern, thanks for your comment. Probably I did not understand the security model of Bacula so far. Furthermore, you misread my post. The point is not anybody having root access to the Bacula server - thats absolutely not the case. And there are just very few users with root access on servers.

Re: [Bacula-users] Fwd: Re: Bacula massive security impact on network

2015-12-18 Thread H. Steuer
On 18.12.2015 18:01, Phil Stracchino wrote: > On 12/18/15 11:56, Kern Sibbald wrote: >> Hello, >> >> If you have hundreds of users with root access and they can access the >> Bacula Director machine as root, you have a far bigger security problem >> than just Bacula, since they can do anything to y

Re: [Bacula-users] Fwd: Re: Bacula massive security impact on network

2015-12-18 Thread Alan Brown
On 18/12/15 18:01, H. Steuer wrote: > > In fact the whole discussion breaks down to a very simple question: > / > //Is the director password thats stored in the file daemon > configuration on a client machine the same password that gains me > administrative access to the director using bconsole./ >

Re: [Bacula-users] Fwd: Re: Bacula massive security impact on network

2015-12-18 Thread Kern Sibbald
On 12/18/2015 06:46 PM, H. Steuer wrote: Hello Kern, thanks for your comment. Probably I did not understand the security model of Bacula so far. Furthermore, you misread my post. The point is not anybody having root access to

Re: [Bacula-users] Fwd: Re: Bacula massive security impact on network

2015-12-18 Thread Heitor Faria
> On 12/18/2015 06:46 PM, H. Steuer wrote: >> Hello Kern, >> thanks for your comment. Probably I did not understand the security model of >> Bacula so far. Furthermore, you misread my >> post. The point is not anybody having root access to the Bacula server - >> thats >> absolutely not the case.

Re: [Bacula-users] Fwd: Re: Bacula massive security impact on network

2015-12-18 Thread Ana Emília M . Arruda
Hello Heri, Maybe the misunderstanding here is because in bacula-fd.conf the client's password used for communicating with director is in a director resource. All the daemons (clients and storages daemons) have their own passwords for communicating with director, not for communicating with bconsol

Re: [Bacula-users] Fwd: Re: Bacula massive security impact on network

2015-12-21 Thread Silver Salonen
Maybe this confusion could have been avoided if there wouldn't be "anonymous" written in the manual - because it indeed is not "anonymous" as such :) -- Silver On 18.12.2015 18:34, H. Steuer wrote: Hello Bill, you are right, but there is a serious side effect. Heres a statement from the Ba