[Bacula-users] How to organize File-Bases Volumes...

2011-01-27 Thread ml ml
Hello List, I have this Pool definition with autolabeling. Pool { Name = File Pool Type = Backup Recycle = yes # Bacula can automatically recycle Volumes AutoPrune = yes # Prune expired volumes Volume Retention = 21 days # one year

Re: [Bacula-users] How to organize File-Bases Volumes...

2011-01-27 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 01/27/11 04:29, ml ml wrote: Hello List, I have this Pool definition with autolabeling. Pool { Name = File Pool Type = Backup Recycle = yes # Bacula can automatically recycle Volumes AutoPrune = yes # Prune expired volumes Volume

Re: [Bacula-users] How to organize File-Bases Volumes...

2011-01-27 Thread ml ml
Hello, Um, 1Mb volume size limit is reasonable on which planet? Well, this was just for testing to see what happens if i run out of Volumes. The big disadvantage is that i will run out of Volumes soon since each Backup Job will create a Volume, even if its only 1MB big. Can i set Maximum

Re: [Bacula-users] How to organize File-Bases Volumes...

2011-01-27 Thread Graham Keeling
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 05:42:10AM -0500, Phil Stracchino wrote: On 01/27/11 04:29, ml ml wrote: Hello List, I have this Pool definition with autolabeling. Pool { Name = File Pool Type = Backup Recycle = yes # Bacula can automatically recycle

Re: [Bacula-users] How to organize File-Bases Volumes...

2011-01-27 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 01/27/11 06:12, Graham Keeling wrote: Perhaps 10GB becomes more reasonable if you allow more than one job per volume, but then you still have the problem of disk space being wasted because you cannot purge the volume until the last small 1MB job passes its retention time. I think this

Re: [Bacula-users] How to organize File-Bases Volumes...

2011-01-27 Thread ml ml
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Phil Stracchino ala...@metrocast.net wrote: On 01/27/11 06:12, Graham Keeling wrote: Perhaps 10GB becomes more reasonable if you allow more than one job per volume, but then you still have the problem of disk space being wasted because you cannot purge the

Re: [Bacula-users] How to organize File-Bases Volumes...

2011-01-27 Thread ml ml
If i set Maximum Volume Bytes = 10GB then it uses the full 10GB at the very first run as full-backup. But the increments later get always written to new Volume Files. E.g. Volume-0001: 10GB (from full run) Volume-0002: 10GB (from full run) Volume-0003: 10GB (from full run) Volume-0004:

Re: [Bacula-users] How to organize File-Bases Volumes...

2011-01-27 Thread Graham Keeling
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 06:26:04AM -0500, Phil Stracchino wrote: On 01/27/11 06:12, Graham Keeling wrote: Perhaps 10GB becomes more reasonable if you allow more than one job per volume, but then you still have the problem of disk space being wasted because you cannot purge the volume

Re: [Bacula-users] How to organize File-Bases Volumes...

2011-01-27 Thread Graham Keeling
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:59:37PM +0100, ml ml wrote: On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Phil Stracchino ala...@metrocast.net wrote: On 01/27/11 06:12, Graham Keeling wrote: Perhaps 10GB becomes more reasonable if you allow more than one job per volume, but then you still have the

Re: [Bacula-users] How to organize File-Bases Volumes...

2011-01-27 Thread Jeremy Maes
Op 27/01/2011 13:41, Graham Keeling schreef: On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:59:37PM +0100, ml ml wrote: On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Phil Stracchinoala...@metrocast.net wrote: On 01/27/11 06:12, Graham Keeling wrote: Perhaps 10GB becomes more reasonable if you allow more than one job per

Re: [Bacula-users] How to organize File-Bases Volumes...

2011-01-27 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 01/27/11 06:59, ml ml wrote: If i set Maximum Volume Bytes = 10GB then it uses the full 10GB at the very first run as full-backup. But the increments later get always written to new Volume Files. E.g. Volume-0001: 10GB (from full run) Volume-0002: 10GB (from full run) Volume-0003: 10GB

Re: [Bacula-users] How to organize File-Bases Volumes...

2011-01-27 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 01/27/11 07:33, Graham Keeling wrote: On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 06:26:04AM -0500, Phil Stracchino wrote: On 01/27/11 06:12, Graham Keeling wrote: I think this last problem is what Phil is trying to solve by setting either Maximum Volume Jobs or Volume Use Duration. But these solutions seem

Re: [Bacula-users] How to organize File-Bases Volumes...

2011-01-27 Thread Graham Keeling
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 08:56:54AM -0500, Phil Stracchino wrote: On 01/27/11 07:33, Graham Keeling wrote: On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 06:26:04AM -0500, Phil Stracchino wrote: On 01/27/11 06:12, Graham Keeling wrote: I think this last problem is what Phil is trying to solve by setting either

Re: [Bacula-users] How to organize File-Bases Volumes...

2011-01-27 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 01/27/11 09:28, Graham Keeling wrote: I shall summarise what I thought I had already said, because it is quite clear to me. You have a terabyte disk that you want to use for backups. You split it into 100 Volumes, set 10GB max volume size each, and 1 job per volume. All your backup

Re: [Bacula-users] How to organize File-Bases Volumes...

2011-01-27 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 01/27/11 08:18, Jeremy Maes wrote: If I recall correctly, bacula will always choose to create new volumes over appending to an existing volume if it has a choice. In this case that means you won't see any non-full Volumes appended to until you hit the 500 volume mark. You do not recall

Re: [Bacula-users] How to organize File-Bases Volumes...

2011-01-27 Thread Graham Keeling
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 09:45:29AM -0500, Phil Stracchino wrote: On 01/27/11 09:28, Graham Keeling wrote: I shall summarise what I thought I had already said, because it is quite clear to me. You have a terabyte disk that you want to use for backups. You split it into 100

Re: [Bacula-users] How to organize File-Bases Volumes...

2011-01-27 Thread John Drescher
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Graham Keeling gra...@equiinet.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 09:45:29AM -0500, Phil Stracchino wrote: On 01/27/11 09:28, Graham Keeling wrote: I shall summarise what I thought I had already said, because it is quite clear to me. You have a

Re: [Bacula-users] How to organize File-Bases Volumes...

2011-01-27 Thread Jeremy Maes
Op 27/01/2011 15:45, Phil Stracchino schreef: On 01/27/11 08:18, Jeremy Maes wrote: If I recall correctly, bacula will always choose to create new volumes over appending to an existing volume if it has a choice. In this case that means you won't see any non-full Volumes appended to until you

Re: [Bacula-users] How to organize File-Bases Volumes...

2011-01-27 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 01/27/11 10:48, Graham Keeling wrote: The same problems exist in more realistic situations. Assuming that I somehow know that all my backups will range from 100MB to 10GB, then what should I set? a) 1 volumes, 100MB max size? b) 100 volumes, 10GB max size? a) gives me

Re: [Bacula-users] How to organize File-Bases Volumes...

2011-01-27 Thread Graham Keeling
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:15:59AM -0500, Phil Stracchino wrote: On 01/27/11 10:48, Graham Keeling wrote: The same problems exist in more realistic situations. Assuming that I somehow know that all my backups will range from 100MB to 10GB, then what should I set? a) 1

Re: [Bacula-users] How to organize File-Bases Volumes...

2011-01-27 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 01/27/11 12:09, Graham Keeling wrote: Now follow the thinking through. Luckily, I have already done that for you. Remember, at the start you had three obvious options: a) Make more volumes, reduce the max sizes. b) Make more volumes, keep the max sizes the same. c) Increase the number of