Re: [Bacula-users] Use modify time, not access time

2012-11-19 Thread Martin Simmons
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 11:12:19 +1100, Gary R Schmidt said: > > Thinking about it - if you "mv" a directory somewhere, and then "mv" it > back, you have, effectively, created a new directory tree. > > Without looking at the source code, if I was writing the scanner, at > *this* point I would

Re: [Bacula-users] Use modify time, not access time

2012-11-16 Thread Gary R. Schmidt
On 17/11/2012 3:05 AM, Dan Langille wrote: > You mention that you checked mtime, and atime. What about ctime? FYI, > Bacula, to my knowledge, does not backup depending up on atime. Thinking about it - if you "mv" a directory somewhere, and then "mv" it back, you have, effectively, created a new d

Re: [Bacula-users] Use modify time, not access time

2012-11-16 Thread lst_hoe02
Zitat von Dan Langille : > On 2012-11-15 23:46, Gary R, Schmidt wrote: >> On 16.11.2012 13:52, Wouter van Marle wrote: >> [SNIP] >>> Result: yesterday I moved a big mail folder with subfolders, causing >>> the >> You *moved* a directory, and you are surprised that the files in it >> are >> being

Re: [Bacula-users] Use modify time, not access time

2012-11-16 Thread Dan Langille
On 2012-11-15 21:52, Wouter van Marle wrote: > Hi, > > I have a big problem with Bacula and the backup of my Cyrus mail > store: > it is backing up way too much. > > When doing incremental it's supposed to look at modify time (which > for > many mails - one file per e-mail - is months or years pa

Re: [Bacula-users] Use modify time, not access time

2012-11-16 Thread Dan Langille
On 2012-11-15 23:46, Gary R, Schmidt wrote: > On 16.11.2012 13:52, Wouter van Marle wrote: > [SNIP] >> Result: yesterday I moved a big mail folder with subfolders, causing >> the > You *moved* a directory, and you are surprised that the files in it > are > being backed up? If I recall correctly,

Re: [Bacula-users] Use modify time, not access time

2012-11-16 Thread Dan Langille
On 2012-11-16 00:57, Wouter van Marle wrote: >> You should include the Job {} in question, and any JobDefs in use. >> >> I suspect you are doing accurate backups. >> > That I switched off already; may have been the cause. I always got > excessive incremental backup sizes, 500 MB while expecting 10-

Re: [Bacula-users] Use modify time, not access time

2012-11-16 Thread lst_hoe02
Zitat von Wouter van Marle : > On Fri, 2012-11-16 at 15:46 +1100, Gary R, Schmidt wrote: >> On 16.11.2012 13:52, Wouter van Marle wrote: >> [SNIP] >> > Result: yesterday I moved a big mail folder with subfolders, causing >> > the >> You *moved* a directory, and you are surprised that the files in

Re: [Bacula-users] Use modify time, not access time

2012-11-15 Thread Wouter van Marle
> You should include the Job {} in question, and any JobDefs in use. > > I suspect you are doing accurate backups. > That I switched off already; may have been the cause. I always got excessive incremental backup sizes, 500 MB while expecting 10-50 MB. Issue at hand is that I moved a mailbox, th

Re: [Bacula-users] Use modify time, not access time

2012-11-15 Thread Wouter van Marle
On Fri, 2012-11-16 at 15:46 +1100, Gary R, Schmidt wrote: > On 16.11.2012 13:52, Wouter van Marle wrote: > [SNIP] > > Result: yesterday I moved a big mail folder with subfolders, causing > > the > You *moved* a directory, and you are surprised that the files in it are > being backed up? Sorry I

Re: [Bacula-users] Use modify time, not access time

2012-11-15 Thread Dan Langille
On Nov 15, 2012, at 9:52 PM, Wouter van Marle wrote: > Hi, > > I have a big problem with Bacula and the backup of my Cyrus mail store: > it is backing up way too much. > > When doing incremental it's supposed to look at modify time (which for > many mails - one file per e-mail - is months or yea

Re: [Bacula-users] Use modify time, not access time

2012-11-15 Thread Gary R, Schmidt
On 16.11.2012 13:52, Wouter van Marle wrote: [SNIP] > Result: yesterday I moved a big mail folder with subfolders, causing > the You *moved* a directory, and you are surprised that the files in it are being backed up? Bacula has never seen these files in that location before, if it *didn't* bac

[Bacula-users] Use modify time, not access time

2012-11-15 Thread Wouter van Marle
Hi, I have a big problem with Bacula and the backup of my Cyrus mail store: it is backing up way too much. When doing incremental it's supposed to look at modify time (which for many mails - one file per e-mail - is months or years past), but it appears to look at the access time instead. Result