RE: Celestial Spheres

2005-12-26 Thread Don Calkins
At 10:17 PM -0600 12/26/05, Hasan Elias wrote: Another matter: Is it correct that the Bahá'í Faith says the universe has no beginning? ('Abdul'-Bahá said that in SAQ) Do we believe in Bing-Bang? I don't For one discussion, see http://bahai-library.com/?file=mihrshahi_ether_quantum_phy

Re: RE: Celestial Spheres

2005-12-26 Thread smaneck
> Another matter: Is it correct that the Bahá'í Faith says the > universe has no beginning? (?Abdul?-Bahá said that in SAQ) I think what Abdu'l-Baha is saying is that there had to be *some* universe. > > Do we believe in Bing-Bang? I don't Big-bang is based on the theory that there is

RE: Celestial Spheres

2005-12-26 Thread Hasan Elias
Another matter: Is it correct that the Bahá'í Faith says the universe has no beginning? (‘Abdul’-Bahá said that in SAQ)   Do we believe in Bing-Bang? I don't     Thanks  Hasan Elias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:Thanks for answer Khazeh. Who knows the physical signal that announc

RE: Celestial Spheres

2005-12-26 Thread Hasan Elias
Thanks for answer Khazeh. Who knows the physical signal that announced the coming of the Twin Manifestations?    It is interesting that in 1844, Friedrich Wilhelm Bessel discovered Sirius (the shiniest star from earth) as a binary system, and in 1862, Alvan Graham Clark (another astronome

RE: Celestial Spheres

2005-12-26 Thread Khazeh Fananapazir
 Hasan EliasSent: 26 December 2005 18:23 Bahá'u'lláh said:   Thou hast, moreover, asked Me concerning the nature of the celestial spheres. To comprehend their nature, it would be necessary to inquire into the meaning of the allusions that have been made in the Books of old to the celestia

Celestial Spheres

2005-12-26 Thread Hasan Elias
Bahá'u'lláh said:   Thou hast, moreover, asked Me concerning the nature of the celestial spheres. To comprehend their nature, it would be necessary to inquire into the meaning of the allusions that have been made in the Books of old to the celestial spheres and the heavens,  and to discover

Re: re: Liberation "Theology"

2005-12-26 Thread smaneck
> > I understood from another post by Mark Foster on this subject that > there are several Liberation Theologies, he mentioned having read > an Islamic inspired one for example. Dear Janine, I would say that Ali Shariati's theology could be described as a 'liberation theology.' I don't know

Re: Proof of Prophethood

2005-12-26 Thread smaneck
Dear David, I would be careful about placing too much weight on Abdu'l-Baha in London as we don't have the original texts for any of these talks. Abdu'l-Baha did say something similiar in talk in the US which was recorded in PUP but there He was said to have affirmed the prophethood of Confuc

Liberation "Theology"

2005-12-26 Thread Khazeh Fananapazir
Title: Untitled Stationery   Dear Janine i am not at home so i will write briefly: and i may not be able to reply for a week... You wrote: Hi Khazeh, :o) Basically my point in my original message was that any Bahai theology, even a liberation one, would develop organically   We can g

RE: Liberation "Theology"

2005-12-26 Thread janine
Hi Khazeh, :o) Basically my point in my original message was that any Bahai theology, even a liberation one, would develop organically. I may have misunderstood the subject, as it was the first time I heard this term, so I had to see what it meant, and I may have gotten the wrong end of the stick

RE: Liberation "Theology"

2005-12-26 Thread Khazeh Fananapazir
Janine van rooij Sent: 26 December 2005 08:47 Subject: re: Liberation "Theology" Hi, I did read that, and I did state my point of view do you think i overlooked something, left something out? I am confused now because it seems you did not see that I read what the first who developed a libera

re: Liberation "Theology"

2005-12-26 Thread janine van rooij
Hi, I did read that, and I did state my point of view do you think i overlooked something, left something out? I am confused now because it seems you did not see that I read what the first who developed a liberation theology wrote or maybe you are implying that my post does not give a good

re: Proof of Prophethood

2005-12-26 Thread janine van rooij
The assessmetn of someone being a Manifestation of God is tricky. God does not always make it easy to recognise a Manifestation of God. this is what Baha'u'llah wrote about Salih. I copied the paragraph before and after, because I think these are relevant in what Baha'u'llah is saying here. An

Liberation "Theology"

2005-12-26 Thread Khazeh Fananapazir
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RE: Baha'i Liberation "Theology"

2005-12-26 Thread janine van rooij
there has not been a reply to this message of mine, and I am afraid that it may be that my post created the wrong impression. I have this habit of trying to keep an open mind and so I inquire. I do not see how a liberation theology could come about, other than in an organic way, but that does