Re: Ablutions

2010-06-21 Thread Gilberto Simpson
The Baha'i Studies Listserv In terms of books/references I tend to consult, none of them treat *people* that way. As far as I am concerned, najas only comes up in terms of defining clean surface and clean clothing in terms of prayer (which in a general sort of way is similar to the Bahai). Also,

Re: Ablutions

2010-06-21 Thread haj...@yahoo.com
The Baha'i Studies Listserv  But the idea that certain people aresupposed to be shunned or treated as untouchable because they are non-Muslim is definitely not a part of Islam. Matt definitely cited several relevant texts on this point... Dear Gilberto, I guess you are right.  What do we do

Re: Ablutions

2010-06-21 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv In terms of books/references  I tend to consult, none of them treat *people* that way. As far as I am concerned, najas only comes up in terms of defining clean surface and clean clothing in terms of prayer (which in a general sort of way is similar to the Bahai).

Re: Ablutions

2010-06-21 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Based on this verse (Quran 9:28) and other hadith, etc. there is decree after decree, even in this 21st century, from Muslim clerics that we Baha'is are najas, that Muslims should not shake hands with us, marry us, eat with us, invite us to their homes, accept

Re: Ablutions

2010-06-21 Thread Gilberto Simpson
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv In terms of books/references I tend to consult, none of them treat *people* that way. As far as I am concerned, najas only comes up in terms of defining clean surface

Re: Ablutions

2010-06-21 Thread Gilberto Simpson
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I would definitely read that ayat spiritually. (And it is my understanding that that is the typical Hanafi view at least). (And do you think that Bahais count as Idolaters?) So if you want to shake hands I'm not going to treat you like najas. And if you serve some good