Re: respect for prophets was Re: Joseph Emmanuel

2010-12-19 Thread Naison Jones
The Baha'i Studies Listserv A seeker must put aside all love and hate. Love because what he loves can blind him to finding the beloved in another form because he is too attached to the old form. if I love the symbol of the cross and am so in love with Jesus dying on the cross and his self-less sacr

Re: LSAs/NSA and the responsibilities of government

2010-12-19 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Sen, there are many people, that I know them;they recognize Baha'ulla'h as a Manifestation of God -not a Prophet nor Messenger-but do not register,and do not regard the Bahai Institutions.So they are not allowed even to participate in the NDFs.they are very since

Re: LSAs/NSA and the responsibilities of government

2010-12-19 Thread Sen & Sonja
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On 19 Dec 2010 at 11:54, shahram rohani wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > Dear Sen, > In your 2 below posts,it seems that word friend is used in 2 different > /opposite meanings! 1)In the first post, A Muslimis called a > friend. 2)In the 2nd post according to

Re: LSAs/NSA and the responsibilities of government

2010-12-19 Thread shahram rohani
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Sen, In your 2 below posts,it seems that word friend is used in 2 different /opposite meanings! 1)In the first post, A Muslimis called a friend. 2)In the 2nd post according to the Writings of Abdul-Baha' ,only the friends should elect the members of the Local/

Re: respect for prophets was Re: Joseph Emmanuel

2010-12-19 Thread Gilberto Simpson
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 3:31 AM, Khazeh wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > Again Firouz said >>  And we don't think non-Baha'is go to hell > Whereupon Gilberto replied: > That's not exactly true. Isn't recognizing the Manifestation for the current > age seen as a

Re: respect for prophets was Re: Joseph Emmanuel

2010-12-19 Thread Gilberto Simpson
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 3:31 AM, Khazeh wrote: > You also said dearest Gilberto > > **I'm going to give more weight to what scholars from Darul-uloom or from > Al-Azhar** > > I beg of you on my knees: do not give weight to scholars qua scholars. Give > weight to your n

Re: respect for prophets was Re: Joseph Emmanuel

2010-12-19 Thread Sen & Sonja
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On 19 Dec 2010 at 18:04, Firouz wrote: > What do you call a Muslim who recognizes Baha'u'llah as Manifestation > of God? "Friend." Sen -- -- Sen McGlinn http://senmcglinn.wordpress.com All

LSAs/NSA and the responsibilities of government

2010-12-19 Thread Sen & Sonja
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On 19 Dec 2010 at 1:03, Gilberto Simpson wrote: > A question which comes to mind is if the LSAs/NSA of a particular > region took on all the responsibilities of government would non-Bahais > be able to vote? Both possibilities are ruled out by the Bahai Writings. (1

Re: respect for prophets was Re: Joseph Emmanuel

2010-12-19 Thread Firouz
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Thank you Sen for your remark. I see your point and I agree with you. I think I could not express myself properly. I am a Baha'i of Muslim Background. I became a Baha'i when I was 20, some 30 years ago. What do you call a Muslim who recognizes Baha'u'llah as Manife

Re: respect for prophets was Re: Joseph Emmanuel

2010-12-19 Thread Sen & Sonja
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On 19 Dec 2010 at 10:05, Firouz wrote: > This is the main issue you pointed out. Gilberto and indeed no Muslim > could ever accept that there could be a Messenger after Prophet > Muhammad, And yet, you did make that step. You should know personally, and you can see h

RE: respect for prophets was Re: Joseph Emmanuel

2010-12-19 Thread Khazeh
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Firouz Anaraki fir...@thai-bahais.org Wrote to our dear and respected and much loved brother Gilberto Simpson > Hi Gilberto, > > Even though Baha'is may talk about Baha'is and non-Baha'is, we still > believe in equality of rights for all humans. All have equal ri