Ian Kluge wrote:
This is especially true vis-à-vis the ontological reality of categories and
species. SAQ is strongly anti-nominalist.
As you know, I read those talks differently. However, we have already discussed
the subject at great length.
BTW, people should be aware that not all
Hi, folks,
This thread has been closed.
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Hi, Gilberto,
I'm not trying or intending to assume omniscience. It's all a work in
progress. It's all tentative. Suppose there are two people and one of
them says I believe in 6 gods while the other one says, I believe in 203
gods. It might turn out that the two of them can sit down
together
Hi, Gilberto,
But what I would wonder is the following. Given that Islamic teachings about
Jesus are in certain respects radically different from Christian teachings
about Jesus, how long should it actually take for Muslims to read Christian
writings and decide that they were not authentic?
Gilberto,
I'm saying about the Bible and what the Bahai writings say about the Bible is
a matter of degree.
IMO, it is more than a matter of degree. Most contemporary Muslims make the
assumption that the texts of the Bible were deliberately altered. Baha'u'llah
specifically rejected that
Hi, Gilberto,
That's a totally seperate question. What you are saying about the Quran
doesn't follow from what you are saying about the Gospels,
especially given what the Bahai writings themselves say about the Quran.
Shoghi Effendi said that the Qur'an is an absolutely authenticated repository
Susan,
I would certainly see Jesus words as doing that even if Paul made an
exception in regards to adultery or a pagan spouse wishing a divorce. In
Judaism grounds for divorce were much broader, at least for the male.
If I said Paul, I meant Jesus (would need to check my messages when I
get
Title: Re: Religious truth relative (was Re: A humble Plea)
Hi, Alex
Regarding:
...religious truth is not absolute but relative...
Shoghi Effendi
You wrote:
For the sake of dispassionate argument, I disagree with this quote by Shoghi Effendi. What could he possibly have meant by saying
Title: Re: God's Covenant in Three Holy Books
Hi, Gilberto,
At 04:10 PM 8/29/2005, you wrote:
And what is really interesting (to me anyway) is that there are actually Noachides.
With few exceptions, the Noachides are non-Jewish members of the Lubavicher Chasidim (Chabad). The
Title: Re: A humble Plea
In relation to the unconditional claim to truth, which has been raised by all the world religions, it is absolute. The truth that emanates from God is absolute. We can accept or reject it, but once accepted it is authoritative, categorical, above criticism and not
I think this discussion is generating more heat than light. Why don't we
cut this thread off at this point?
I second that.
However, Iskandar, although I have never seen the point of this entire
discussion, I don't think that Gilberto was attacking you. As I read it,
he was saying that, as a
Title: Hi, folks,
Hi, folks,
Susan and I called for an end to this discussion earlier in the day, and it is not getting any friendlier. Please, people, no more posts on this subject.
Via moderna, Mark A. Foster http://markfoster.net
... since [a] word is said to be common, it can be
Title: Re: 2000 Years of suffering
Gilberto,
At 12:30 AM 8/29/2005, you wrote:
I'm accusing Bahais of being susceptible to the same temptations as every other human being.
I must admit that I do not understand where you are going with this thread.
For instance, how can you accuse
Title: RE: 2000 Years of suffering (Was Baha'is in Nazi Germany)
The Universal Court of Arbitration and the International Tribunal are the same. When the Bah' State will be established they will be merged in the Universal House of Justice.
-- From a letter, dated June 17, 1933, written on
Title: Re: next Prophet=+1,000 solar or lunar years?
I would like to know your thoughts about twelve months according to the Qur'an, and of nineteen months of nineteen days each, according to the Bayan, since the months and years have different numbers of days, this would result in
Title: Re: 2000 Years of suffering (Was Baha'is in Nazi Germany)
Gilberto,
At 09:50 PM 8/25/2005, you wrote:
But I also think that you can appreciate the fact that for me it is not an article of faith and so it isn't necessarily true.
I suppose I am unclear in what you are asking.
Title: Re: Unity without Social Justice
Hi, Tim,
The word unity, as I am using it, means that the prevailing attitude and behavior of people is that all of us, of any race, religion, national background, economic class, or either sex, all of us are one family, that we are all the
is more an issue of social justice than of unity, and
a society which is united but absent social justice is not one in which I would
want to live.
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Title: Re: Unity without Social Justice
Tim,
As I understand it, unity is a prerequisite for social justice, and justice, in the sense of fairness and equity, is the natural fruit of real unity. So, I doubt that it is possible to have a society that is truly united but which lacks social
Title: Re: Baha'is in Nazi Germany
Gilberto,
I'm refering to the idea that Jewish suffering for the past 2000 years or so was somehow due to the things which *some* Jews might have tried to do to Jesus. Or the idea that Muslims might be suffering due to what *some* Muslims might have
Susan,
Unless the UN took over the operation, and the U.S. and all the countries which
were involved in the Iraq War bowed out.
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Hi, Dave,
I haven't been there since we heard the voice on the tape.
Weird, huh.
Perhaps such things happen. I don't know. However, what I have
noticed from the various accounts of hauntings I have read is
that the more people fret over, and focus on, them, the more
they appear to occur.
Steve,
How about renaming the group in a symbolic restart,
International Baha'i Studies. Probably would need a
reasonable roster of moderators.? Also I miss
discussion of actual books and texts and chapters and
essays and papers.
In terms of moderation, as I said, Susan and I have
IMO, Prophets can know the future, if they want to. Therefore,
I don't think that there is necessarily a conflict between
the words of a Prophecy reflecting God's Will and being a
prediction, at least to some degree, of future events.
As I see it, the issue has been addressed by both
Gilberto,
So is there some powerful significant moral change which happens
at 15? Or is the year just arbitrary?
It is significant because Baha'u'llah designated it.
Sincerely yours, Mark A. Foster, Ph.D. * Professor of Sociology
Johnson County Community College, Overland Park, Kansas
Susan,
Okay. I have a few hours to kill waiting for the publisher to show up
here in my office:
The House of Justice has been provided with the power to elucidate the
texts in order to carry out its legislative functions. In that sense,
elucidation is an extension of the House's legislative
Gilberto,
Bahais, are typically going to be attached to Bahaullah.
There is a difference between being attached to Baha'u'llah,
as the Soul Who incarnates the Will, Word, and Cause of God
and being attached to the historical personality of Mirza
Husayn Ali.
The Souls of Baha'u'llah, of
Richard,
You
quoted:
In
fact, most tutors find that using a dictionary to help the participants
understand difficult words actually interferes
with their learning. It
seems far more useful to help them learn how to
infer the meanings
of words through discussion of whole phrases and
Hi, Richard,
Often times the dictionary definition does not help much in the
understanding of the phrase in which the word is found; especially
if one is using a dictionary that does not give the specific nuance
the author intends.
Depending on the dictionary. However, don't you think that is
Hi, Ron,
By the way, from 1988 until 1994 I lived in
Overland Park (Nottingham Forest) within
walking distance of Johnson County CC. I wish
I had been a Baha'i then, it would have been
a pleasure to have made your acquantance.
Cool. I know several faculty members and administrators
who live
Brent,
You wrote:
I think that, as Baha'is (and Baha'i institutions), we
need to avoid making allies out of the Christian right, or
even having it appear as such.
I'd like to address this point, not the individual who
made it, but my own view that this represents the attitude
of a great many
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