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From: Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com
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Reference, please.
. Maimonides did not support child marriages, he
: Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com
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Now that I think about it, I wonder if the cutoff is age three here
because of the earlier story of Rebecca
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Not necessarily. Being a bar or bat mitzvah means one is individually
responsible for ones obedience or disobedience to the commandments.
But that's not necessarily a condition for marriage. For example the
father could marry off his daughter when she is young.
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Now, that Jews have the ritual of the Bat Mitzvah does that imply that the
marrying age has been raised to 12? The marrying age for men is 13 because
of the ritual of Bar Mitvah. It implies that a Jew can be married only after
they have gone through Bar/Bat Mitvah.
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Rebecca was extremely uncomfortable during her pregnancy and went to inquire
of God why she was suffering so. According to the Midrash, whenever she
would pass a house of Torah study, Jacob would struggle to come out;
whenever she would pass a house of idolatry,
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Rebecca was extremely uncomfortable during her pregnancy and went to inquire
of God why she was suffering so. According to the Midrash, whenever she
would pass a house of Torah study, Jacob would struggle to come out;
whenever she
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Jewish traditions tend to retcon torah, torah study, jewish universities to
the time of Adam or before.
Yes, I know. I just find it amusing.
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I recently participated in a discussion about Muhammad.
One person in the discussion stated over and over that
Muhammad was immoral because he married a girl aged 6,
and had intimate relations with her when she was only 9.
This particular person in the discussion was
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One start is to gather the various traditions, which disagree about
the age of Aisha when she was married.
I discuss two of them on my blog here:
http://senmcglinn.wordpress.com/email-archive/the-age-of-aisha/
but I know there are others. These two happen to come
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From: Tim Nolan tnola...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 2:26:57 PM
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I recently participated in a discussion about Muhammad.
One person in the discussion stated over and over
From: Stephen Gray skg_z...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 2:38:56 PM
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http://misconceptions-about-islam.com/
This is a good defense of Islam website.
http
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I recently participated in a discussion about Muhammad.
One person in the discussion stated over and over that
Muhammad was immoral because he married a girl aged 6,
and had intimate relations with her when she was only 9.
I would agree that Stephen's chronology
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The most thoughtful discussion I've seen on the topic is:
The Young Marriage of cAishah: Mother of the Believers by Abû Imân
cAbd ar-Rahmân Robert Squires
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Polemics/aishah.html
The article makes a number of points and I'd encourage
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The article makes a number of points and I'd encourage you to read it.
The big point is that early marriages were normal for much of
pre-modern history and that even enemies and critics of Islam in the
past were unfazed by the marriage of Muhammad (saaws) and Aishah
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Reference, please.
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com wrote:
Maimonides held that 3 was the permissible marriage age.
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I found the following blog which gives references
http://rabbimichaelsamuel.com/wisdom/jewish-sexual-ethics/
But the emphasis seems to be in an odd place. I mean, it seems to be
saying that sex doesn't even count as sex before 3. (If she is
younger than that, (less
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The clearest statement I could find is in the Talmud
A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in marriage by
coition, and if her deceased husband's brother cohabits with her, she
becomes his.
The larger context is:
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Reference, please.
. Maimonides did not support child marriages, he merely acknowledged
they were permissible according to the Talmud. I can'f find an
electronic version of his statement, but here's a website that speaks
of it:
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Now that I think about it, I wonder if the cutoff is age three here
because of the earlier story of Rebecca and Isaac?
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Now that I think about it, I wonder if the cutoff is age three here
because of the earlier story of Rebecca and Isaac?
I was thinking the same thing. We know some Muslims justify marrying
young girls on the basis of Muhammad's marriage to Aisha.
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