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> Susan, how to know is one is suited for marriage?
It seems to me that is a personal decision.
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Hi,
Susan, how to know is one is suited for marriage?
De: Susan Maneck
Para: Baha'i Studies
Enviado: sáb, junio 12, 2010 9:50:00 AM
Asunto: Re: Islam's Discouragement of Celibacy
The Baha'i ideal is marri
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> What is the Baha'i ideal and the Baha'i compromise with reality?
The Baha'i ideal is marriage. Celibacy is our compromise with reality.
Not everyone is suited for marriage.
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What is the Baha'i ideal and the Baha'i compromise with reality? We don't have
polyamy. I haven't heard that much on celibacy, but I know polygamy is
explicitly forbidden. If celibacy is the ideal, why isn't it referenced? I
monogamy is the ideal, then what's the comp
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rights_and_obligations_of_spouses_in_Islam
I just recently found more info on the Islamic marital fiqh.
Yes, Americans (and other Westerners) get the concept of marriage being a
compromise. The laws say sex must be mutually consensual, w
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What is the Baha'i ideal and the Baha'i compromise with reality? We don't have
polyamy.
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> I've often heard it said that in Christianity, celibacy is the ideal
> and monogamy is the compromise with reality. While in Islam, monogamy
> is t
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But marriage is about compromise. If the guy was fine by living his life
from fasting and praying all day, then that's great. But if he has a wife,
and her needs aren't being met, she has the right to complain.
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Susan Maneck wrote:
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There are very similar stories in the Jewish Midrash literature.
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Stephen Gray wrote:
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> No, I was comparing Islamic Arabia to secular America. The whole hadith's
> story seem a lil absurd to me, not the the
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No, I was comparing Islamic Arabia to secular America. The whole hadith's story
seem a lil absurd to me, not the theory behind it. Muhammad (the Glory of God
rest upon him) makes sense.The story is absurd, even though the point being
made makes sense. It seems more
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I'm really not sure what your point is. All the things you mention are
pretty exceptional. Are you advocating for sexless marriages? Are you
saying they are normal and healthy? Are you saying that the Bahai
attitude towards sex and marriage is fundamentally different?
O
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Oh, I checked wikipedia for stats. It's some part a cultural issue.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexless_marriage
Sexless marriages frequently develop over time gradually from marriages that
once involved more frequent sex. The following are possible causes:
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> I've often heard it said that in Christianity, celibacy is the ideal
> and monogamy is the compromise with reality. While in Islam, monogamy
> is the ideal, and polygamy is the compromise with reality.
>
That's a good way of putting it, Gilberto.
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There is nothing "wrong" with sexual desire. The issue is proper and
lawful use, which is within marriage. Physical expression of love is not
lust. The Guardian said (don't have the exact quote) that the proper use
of the sex instinct is the unquestioned right of eve
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I would assume that the hadith is accurate. I think the exact version
my come from Shia sources but there are similar texts in sunni
collections. I don't think the hadith says anything about ALL women,
but just gives a glimpse of the family life of Uthman ibn Madh'oon's
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Is that Hadith historically accurate? It does suppose an "all women are
lustful" cultural stereotype about women. Is it a Sunni or Shia hadith? Lot's
of people have celibate marriages without problems. I come from America (part
of the Anglosphere) so I couldn't im
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In at least some versions, the person in question is married and it is
even the wife who complained to the prophet (saaws)
In Sahih Ibn Hibban, the following was narrated:
"The wife of 'Uthman ibn Madh'oon complained to the Messenger of Allah
(sas) that her husband had
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Wikipedia has this:
"There have been people who have come to the prophet and explained how they
love to be engaged in prayer and fasting for the sake of God. However, the
Prophet Mohammed told them that despite this being good it is also a blessing
to raise a family,
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