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Wikipedia on Antinomianism outside Christianity. You seem to be only familiar
with the Christian forms which are radical salvation by faith alone, but the
other forms of Antinomianism are not this.
Buddhism
See also: Crazy wisdom
Among Buddhists there are three main
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It really long, but really good.
http://www.kusala.org/udharma/globalethic.html
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> I forgot to include specific religious ethics. Note, Scientology and Wicca
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ght to my trash folder.
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> Tim
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> All good art is about something deeper than it admits.
> --Roger Ebert
> From: Susan Maneck
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> Subject: Re: New Religious Movements and Post Conventional Morality
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Subject: Re: New Religious Movements and Post Conventional Morality
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Please everyone. Hitherto ignore Stephen's posts. Maybe he will take
the hint and leave on his own accord. But don't give him oxygen.
Covenant breaking talk is not welcome here.
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Please everyone. Hitherto ignore Stephen's posts. Maybe he will take
the hint and leave on his own accord. But don't give him oxygen.
Covenant breaking talk is not welcome here.
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Susan Maneck wrote:
>> If I had written that book, I woul
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> If I had written that book, I would have included more info, included other
> sects than the Haifan Heterodox Baha'i World Faith.
All right, that's it. You are not welcome here. Either remove yourself
from this list or I will call Mark and have him remove you.
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> Susan, just read Don's paragraph.
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What about it?
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> Susan, why do Baha'is need to be ignorant of all ethics and all morality that
> isn't the Baha'i Faith?
Did I say we did? What I said is that we are not compelled to fit into
their categories.
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Susan, just read Don's paragraph.
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> To quote Don C,
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> According to Baha'u'llah, this is not merely a new Dispensation, but a new
> age, the Age of Maturity. As su
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Susan, why do Baha'is need to be ignorant of all ethics and all morality that
isn't the Baha'i Faith?
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On Apr 18, 2013, at 15:16, Susan Maneck wrote:
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>> I remember talking about these concepts earlier. Post conventional
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I wholeheartedly agree with Humanist praise for the Golden Rule. Authoritarian
dogmatic attachment to a conventional code of laws and rules will cause people
to lose sight of the Golden Rule.
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I've studied Antinomianism is various religions. It's a good example of post
conventional religious tendencies. Pashupata Shaivism is one example that comes
to mind.
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Reflect on the principles highlighted in the Declaration of a Global Ethic.
Briefly describe the extent to which you see each principle being practiced in
society.
> The "Declaration Toward a Global Ethic"[34] from the Parliament of the
> World’s Religions[35][36] (1
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I like the Golden Rule as the beginning, the middle, and the end of all ethics
and of all morality.
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On Apr 18, 2013, at 12:43, Stephen Kent Gray wrote:
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> I remember talking about these concepts earlier. Post convention
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I think conventions can hinder moral and ethical development.
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> How come this topic is ignored in favor or Against nature?
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I certainly hope so.
otherwise, eternity is going to last a lo-ong time. 8-)
Don C
On Apr 19, 2013, at 2:00 38PM, Matt Haase wrote:
> No matter who it is describing, it seems to me to demonstrate that God's
> mercy is much, much, more manifest than his "wrath."
>
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Well, this true believer must have sinned so many times that they "be
heaped as piles of sand." :-)
No matter who it is describing, it seems to me to demonstrate that God's
mercy is much, much, more manifest than his "wrath."
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Don Calki
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Sorry, I'm not letting Kohlberg or you define for me or my religion
the age in which we live.
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> It's cause we live in a post conventional age unlike the conventional age of
> Adam
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IMO, this is a reference to the True Believer who comes to Akka as a pilgrim to
see Baha'u'llah.
Don C
On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:27 10PM, Matt Haase wrote:
> But by the same token, the Epistle to the Son of the Wolf states that one's
> past and future sins would be fo
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But by the same token, the Epistle to the Son of the Wolf states that one's
past and *future* sins would be forgiven them if they counted forty waves
while saying, "God is the Most Great" in Akka. There is also the Baha'i
teaching of the progression of the soul after dea
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Antinomianism is an extreme form of "salvation by faith alone".
As I understand it, Abdu'l-Baha accepted two ideas -
Faith without works is dead;
Deeds without faith is sterile.
Doesn't fit with any discussion of antinomianism I've read.
Don C
On Apr 18, 2013, at 2:3
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Sounds like moral and ethical principles and not laws should be the center of
this Age. Sounds like an Age of Antinomianism, no rules other than the Golden
Rule.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinomianism
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So basically from all the info we live in the Age of the New Religious Movement!
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> To quote Don C,
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> According to Baha'u'llah, this is not merely a new Dispensation
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To quote Don C,
According to Baha'u'llah, this is not merely a new Dispensation, but a new age,
the Age of Maturity. As such, what we are going thru' is the greatest change
to the functioning of human affairs since the mythic "Time of Adam", when the
Culture Hero so
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It's cause we live in a post conventional age unlike the conventional age of
Adam as referenced earlier in Against Nature. This age isn't about
materialistic and paternalistic people treating people as if they were sheep.
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On Apr 18, 2013, at 15:16,
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> I remember talking about these concepts earlier. Post conventional morality
> is based on a social contract and universal ethical principles without
> regards to specific terms on which they need to be based upon. Conventional
> morality is based on authority and confo
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How come this topic is ignored in favor or Against nature?
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> I forgot to include specific religious ethics. Note, Scientology and Wicca
> are good examples of the
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I forgot to include specific religious ethics. Note, Scientology and Wicca are
good examples of the hypothesis. The Baha'i Faith and Religious Humanism
are good examples as well.
The "Declaration Toward a Global Ethic"[34] from the Parliament of the World’s
Rel
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I remember talking about these concepts earlier. Post conventional morality is
based on a social contract and universal ethical principles without regards to
specific terms on which they need to be based upon. Conventional morality is
based on authority and conformity
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