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> Technically, on her webiste she says that she recognizes no authority but
> the Manifestation (Baha'u'llah) intrinsically and all others as reflections
> of that.
And in practice what that means is one accepts only ones own
understanding of that Manifestation.
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> The topic got derailed by the fact that this topic was based on info from
> Allison's website. PS. The problem between Allison Marshall and the
> Universal House of Justice in Haifa, Israel is a technicality dispute over
> the nature of inf
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> The topic got derailed by the fact that this topic was based on info from
> Allison's website. PS. The problem between Allison Marshall and the
> Universal House of Justice in Haifa, Israel is a technicality dispute over
> the nature of infallibiity. I
Dear Steve,
It
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Dear Stephen,
Just my opinion: I think this would be a great topic for the Baha'i
Community website, also.
It might be more fitting were I to answer these in private to you.
However, in case it is the source for any confirmations or meditations
on the part of the fr
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YAH BAHA'UL ABHA!!
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 8:24 AM , Khazeh wrote:
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> I have received on this laptop so far 21 e-mails on the subject of enrolled
> or unenrolled or disenrolled.
> How is this helpful to any one?
> What one should say is t
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On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 8:24 AM , Khazeh wrote:
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I have received on this laptop so far 21 e-mails on the subject of
enrolled
or unenrolled or disenrolled.
How is this helpful to any one?
What one should say is that Sen
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On 18 Apr 2010 at 2:53, Iskandar Hai, M.D. wrote:
> I think he did. I can't recall whether it was posted here in its
> entirety or not.
What I posted was most of it. I think it might be a bit rude to make
the letter public in its entirety while the UHJ is still consi
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>I don't think Sen's letter was posted here.
It was about a day ago. You can see it in the archives. I'd reproduce it but
I know some people pay by the byte.
Regards,
David
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I don't think Sen's letter was posted here.
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 9:18 PM, David Regal wrote:
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> Dear Susan,
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> >Are you responding to a pri
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I don't think Sen's letter was posted here.
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 9:18 PM, David Regal wrote:
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> Dear Susan,
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> >Are you responding to a private message, David?
>
> Oh, I see it could have been misleading. I was responding to Sen's p
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Dear Susan,
>Are you responding to a private message, David?
Oh, I see it could have been misleading. I was responding to Sen's post
including his letter to the House, though I didn't quote from it.
Regards,
David
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I'm so glad that Khazeh introduced some sanity to this unwelcomed
discussion.
Alison has one of the best sites and I read it when I have time. Sen's blog
is outstanding and I often benefit from it and when I have time or find
something useful pass it on to him. I con
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I have received on this laptop so far 21 e-mails on the subject of enrolled
or unenrolled or disenrolled.
How is this helpful to any one?
What one should say is that Sen MacGlinn and Alison Marshall are very very
learned about the Bahai Faith and its studies and its book
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Are you responding to a private message, David?
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:28 PM, David Regal wrote:
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> Dear Sen,
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> Good you wrote that letter to the House, and I'll be interested to see the
> response. Have they responded yet? I wa
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On 16 Apr 2010 at 19:28, David Regal wrote:
> Have they responded yet? I wasn't sure if you were
> indicating they had responded already or will in future.
No, they haven't responded. It's early days yet. The previous time I
applied to be re-enrolled (without addi
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Dear Sen,
Good you wrote that letter to the House, and I'll be interested to see the
response. Have they responded yet? I wasn't sure if you were indicating they
had responded already or will in future.
Regards,
David
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I think I have read somewhere in the Writings that even a Covenant breaker
can be reinstated if they truly "repent" (my word, not theirs).
> ...especially if disenrollment is intended to be a life-time
> situation, meaning that disenrolled Bahais will be a permanent par
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Please do not discuss the situation in China on this list. I should
have caught this earlier.
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han it admits.
--Roger Ebert
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From: Sen & Sonja
To: Baha'i Studies
Sent: Fri, April 16, 2010 6:14:52 AM
Subject: Polishing the Mirror (the Soul)
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On 16 Apr 2010 at 1:42, David Regal wrote:
> Didn't she disagree with some UHJ decisi
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> I'm fairly sure a while ago I saw a copy of a critical letter to them,
> probably on her website. Not totally sure. I did speak to a couple family
> members tonight on the subject, as we used to live in NZ. One said it was
> common knowledge among NZ Baha'is that
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On 16 Apr 2010 at 7:36, David Regal wrote:
> family members tonight on the subject, as we used to live in NZ. One
> said it was common knowledge among NZ Baha'is that she wrote to the
> UHJ arguing that Shoghi Effendi could not have been the successor of
> 'Abdu'l-Baha
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> The UHJ determines the membership, and sometimes says that certain
> people who apply for membership cannot be enrolled, but it does not
> say that they are not Bahais.
That's where you are wrong. In explaining their decision to remove
Alison Marshall from the members
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Didn't she disagree with some UHJ decisions, though?
>that's the rumour, but the UHJ has never said so, and I've seen no
>evidence for it. It's easy to launch a rumour.
I'm fairly sure a while ago I saw a copy of a critical letter to them, probably
on her website.
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>not enrolled, but then neither are the Bahais in China or Iran.
That's because in Iran it is dangerous if your name is found
on a Baha'i membership list. In China, according to what I've read,
believers are not enrolled because of some policies of the Chinese
govern
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Sen!
As a noted academic, did you ever study logic with Professor Backwards?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professor_Backwards
I get the sense that you used a similar dialectical approach to explaining
and attempting to justify why you published an inordinate number of
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On 16 Apr 2010 at 1:42, David Regal wrote:
> Didn't she disagree with some UHJ decisions, though?
that's the rumour, but the UHJ has never said so, and I've seen no
evidence for it. It's easy to launch a rumour.
> no sense to claim to be Baha'i if you don't support
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> 4. Alison is a Bahai, but Susan doesn't approve.
Didn't she disagree with some UHJ decisions, though? It makes no sense to
claim to be Baha'i if you don't support the UHJ, plus it means you don't meet
the qualifications of membership decided by Shoghi Effendi. Ag
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> 4. Alison is a Bahai, but Susan doesn't approve.
It is not a matter of my approving. As in your case, it is the
Universal House of Justice which determined she was not a Baha'i.
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Friends,
It isn't a question of approval or disapproval. Alison Marshall has been
removed from the membership lists of the Bahai Faith. I don't mean any
disrespect to Alison when I say this, but you may call a donkey a horse, but
that still doesn't make it a horse.
I b
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Whoa. Maybe Sen would like to reveal that he has a dog in this fight.
Jeanine
On 4/15/2010 2:49 PM, Sen & Sonja wrote:
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On 15 Apr 2010 at 7:46, Stephen Gray wrote:
The reply is chronologically vague.
1An ex-Bahai sets up a website.
2A
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On 15 Apr 2010 at 7:46, Stephen Gray wrote:
> The reply is chronologically vague.
> 1An ex-Bahai sets up a website.
> 2A Bahai sets up a website, then becomes an ex.
> 3A non-Bahai sets up a website, becomes one, becomes an ex.
or
4. Alison is a Bahai, but Susan doesn't
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--->This website was constructed by an ex-Baha'i named Alison Marshall.
The reply is chronologically vague.
1An ex-Bahai sets up a website.
2A Bahai sets up a website, then becomes an ex.
3A non-Bahai sets up a website, becomes one, becomes a
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This website was constructed by an ex-Baha'i named Alison Marshall.
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I recently found some translations of more of Baha'u'llah's writings.
The website:
http://whoisbahaullah.com/
The writings summary page:
http://whoisbahaullah.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=67&Itemid=50
Introductions index:
http://whoisbahaullah.com/ex
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