--Susan wrote:
>
> If what you are trying to say is that an LSA can
> establish any prerequisite
> it wishes, I would agree.
that is what i want to say.
But when Ruhi books are
> made prerequisites for
> certain types of service it is decreasing, rather
> than increasing human
> resources,
Dear Firouz,
you wrote:
> At this time when we have lack of human resources,
> it would be much better
> for all of us to make use of our resources to best
> of our abilities. I have
> seen some places where they had such requirement,
> the number of children
> classes in fact reduced as ther
Dear Firouz,
What do you think I am saying?
YOu see, I think I was stating that nobody would send
their children to a school where the teachers had no
official qualifications.
I thought I was also saying that someone who has a
certain qualification, be that ruhi book 3 or a degree
in educatio
"I maintain that it is a job. And that the lsa is a
body who has to decide who is qualified and who is
not."
Dear Janine,
If what you are trying to say is that an LSA can establish any prerequisite
it wishes, I would agree. But when Ruhi books are made prerequisites for
certain types of service
After all how many people in the USa, Bahai and
non=Bahai, send their children to an educational
institute where the teachers do not have any
qualifications in education?
That's true, the parents everywhere would like to send their children to a
good school with professional teachers. But the poi
Susan,
I maintain that it is a job. And that the lsa is a
body who has to decide who is qualified and who is
not.
i have known qualified teachers, who could not teach.
Could not control a group. yet they were hired as a
teacher.
to me, personally, whether someone has done book 3 or
has a mast
"if an LSA considers someone only qualified to be a
teacher to a childrens class who has done a course in
education, that is their right. Personally, I think it
is shortsighted, but if people feel this way, then
they feel this way. If an LSA feels only one who has
done Ruhi book 3 can teach childr
I do not say I agree.
I say that an LSA has the right to say we want only
teachers who have done this or who have that
experience or whatever.
childrens classes is not the same as teaching the
Bahai faith to non-Bahais. Or giving talks. Or doing
whatever.
if an LSA considers someone only qual
In a message dated 1/19/2005 10:37:21 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dear Janine,Here I cannot agree with you. There have been and there are excellent children class teachers who have been doing a great job. To me it shows stupidity of a decision by an LSA to require all chi
Janine:
"You may be right that you might not be considered qualified to give
childrens classes if you have not done book 3. And that is a perfectly
legitimate decision of any LSA to make."
Dear Janine,
Here I cannot agree with you. There have been and there are excellent
children class teachers wh
Susan:I hate deepening classes that treat me like a child. That is probably whyneither Ruhi or Core Curriculum appeal to me much. When the scissors and crayons come out I'm gone. But maybe that is just because I can't cut or color. ;-}
JS:
I feel the same way. Why can't we have study circles to st
Anybody can set up a study circle. We can always refer back to the UHJ
letters to bakc that up.
Dear Janine,
I know that, but it won't get counted as fulfilling any goals.
"So if Ruhi is not working in the USA, and counsellors go around telling
things which are not based in truth, like that Ruhi
Dear janine,
Thanks again for your reply. Talking about Adib Taherzadeh, I would like to
comment that I do admire him. I had an opportunity to meet him during my
pilgrimage in 1996 and I really did enjoy talking with him and listening to
him. In fact I should say that I have met quite a number
Anybody can set up a study circle. We can always refer back to the UHJ letters to bakc that up.
To be a recognised ruhi facillitator, one has to do book 7 and in some countries, Ireland for example, this one cannot do before one has done book 1,2,3,4,6.
but to set up any study circle one whi
"I have always believed the books can be adapted."
Dear Janine,
This seems to be the position of Dr. Arbab himself, from what I've heard.
But when I've suggested it in the states, I got two responses. One was that
the material was copyrighted and therefore couldn't be changed. The other
response
It can be very lonely being a Bahai.
I wish you much strength and love,
Janine van rooij
To be LONELY is almost essential in being a Bahai
Thou seest this Wronged One LONELY in exile: Where are the hosts of the
heaven of Thy Command, O Sovereign of the worlds?
(Baha'u'llah: B
Dear Firouz,
Yes, time is a big thing. And talk about taking the
words of an ABM or Counsellor for holy... (sigh).
the first time I ever went to summer school, before
becoming Bahai, Adib Taherzadeh was there and he was a
counsellor. Most of us were camping. Every day Adib
woudl walk the campin
Dear janine,
Thanks so much for your feedback. You're right absolutely and I fully agree
with you on various points you are discussing here.
The problem to my opinion is that majority of Baha'is specially here in Asia
are not so deepened in the Writings and many do consider the words of a
House
Firouz,
I am sorry for your experiences. They do not seem to
be good.
A couple of years ago (2 I think) there was a
counsellor from Russia over in Ireland to attend a
non-Bahai conference. She told us that in her town the
LSA decided to offer the Ruhi book 1 as a personal
development course to
Don't confuse Ruhi with Study Circles per se. Ruhi is just the curriculum
which has been adopted in most areas for Study Circles.
Yes I do understand that. But since here we do not have any other form of SC
we mean Ruhi when we talk about SC.
regards,
Firouz
_
But personally I did not enjoy the SC method of Teaching the
Faith.
Dear Firouz,
Don't confuse Ruhi with Study Circles per se. Ruhi is just the curriculum
which has been adopted in most areas for Study Circles.
"Once when I disagreed about a given comment in one of the Ruhi books,
I was sort of
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