RE: criteria for appropriateness Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-28 Thread Hasan Elias
Yes, I'd say cooperate also.   I'm not "academic", but I feel good in this forum, but please do not revolve persistently in the same topic.      The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") and is

RE: criteria for appropriateness Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-28 Thread Susan Maneck
"Okay. Please calm down everyone. This thread, even by this alternate subject heading , has been closed." Ditto that. And we want the personal attacks to stop as well. The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community Co

RE: criteria for appropriateness Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-28 Thread Mark Foster
Hi, folks, Okay. Please calm down everyone. This thread, even by this alternate subject heading , has been closed. Mark A. Foster, Ph.D. * Prof. of Sociology * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Johnson County Community College, Overland Park, Kansas 913-469-8500 x3376 * Fax 913-469-2589 * VOIP 347-983-0161 Mobi

Re: criteria for appropriateness Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-28 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Dear Susan, Gilberto is hell bent on misrepresenting you, Khazeh, Scott, and others. He is not going to stop doing that. It's just totally pointless to try to reason with him because he has left his mind and reasoning power somewhere in the 7th century on some desert. Iskandar On Fri, 28 Oct 2

Re: criteria for appropriateness Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-28 Thread Iskandar Hai, M.D.
Well, let's see: someone does a bank robbery somewhere. He is caught and tried and incarcerated. I'd say that's appropriate nowadys, in this day and age. Now, is it appropriate to cut off his hand? Gilberto avoids this question and evades to give an answer. I think he knows that we understand that

Re: criteria for appropriateness Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-28 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On 10/28/05, Hajir Moghaddam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gilberto: > > So I would say that to *some* degree, human beings have *some* > > capacity to tell right from wrong, apart from a specific text. > Hajir: > Makes sense. But it is more than just coincidence, to Baha'is, that all of > these

Re: criteria for appropriateness Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-28 Thread Hajir Moghaddam
Gilberto: > So I would say that to *some* degree, human beings have *some*> capacity to tell right from wrong, apart from a specific text.Hajir: Makes sense.  But it is more than just coincidence, to Baha'is, that all of these changes in human thought (spirit of the age) took place around t

Re: criteria for appropriateness Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-28 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On 10/28/05, Hajir Moghaddam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gilberto: > How do you define "appropriate"? I would suggest we come up with some > specific moral principles, a set of criteria which makes sense, and > which can be applied in different situations. > Hajir: > This is a great idea. The

Re: criteria for appropriateness Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-28 Thread Hajir Moghaddam
Gilberto:   How do you define "appropriate"? I would suggest we come up with somespecific moral principles, a set of criteria which makes sense, andwhich can be applied in different situations.   Hajir:   This is a great idea.  The only criteria and condition that makes sense is God Himself.

Re: criteria for appropriateness Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-28 Thread Hajir Moghaddam
Gilberto: But you *are* presuming to talk about the teachings of at least oneprophet and call them barbaric, inappropriate, genocidal, out of date. I don't think it is presumtuous to say "Hey killing folks who areminding their own business is generally wrong" or "stealing is a badthing to do"

Re: criteria for appropriateness Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-27 Thread Gilberto Simpson
[addressed to Scott] > "How do you define "appropriate"? I would suggest we come up with some > specific moral principles, a set of criteria which makes sense, and > which can be applied in different situations." Susan: > We are neither prophets nor the sons of prophets that we should presume to >

RE: criteria for appropriateness Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-27 Thread Susan Maneck
"But you *are* presuming to talk about the teachings of at least one prophet and call them barbaric, inappropriate, genocidal, out of date." The only thing which is true of the above statement is that I did suggest it was out of date. And I suggest that on the basis of God's new revelation. And mo

Re: criteria for appropriateness Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-27 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On 10/28/05, Susan Maneck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "How do you define "appropriate"? I would suggest we come up with some > specific moral principles, a set of criteria which makes sense, and > which can be applied in different situations." > > We are neither prophets nor the sons of prophets t

RE: criteria for appropriateness Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-27 Thread Susan Maneck
"How do you define "appropriate"? I would suggest we come up with some specific moral principles, a set of criteria which makes sense, and which can be applied in different situations." We are neither prophets nor the sons of prophets that we should presume to do this. The information conta

criteria for appropriateness Re: Interesting thread

2005-10-27 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On 10/27/05, Scott Saylors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In Afghanistan the courts of shar'iah routinely sentenced people to be > stoned to death. > Is this an appropriate sentence to this day and age? How do you define "appropriate"? I would suggest we come up with some specific moral principles,