On Monday 26 Apr 2010 5:52:49 pm Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
> > And FWIW - no, I didn't read the 667 page PDF :)
>
> I downloaded it and went through it, counting the # of times Python
> is mentioned as an exercise . It is not a joke and Python is mentioned
> not only in page 1, but in pages
On Tuesday 27 Apr 2010 12:17:36 am Manish Sinha wrote:
> Just like Noufal said - Read a little more on templating. Even python
> has templating. I can't say about the best ones as I don't have much
> experience in Python web development.
>
cheetah, jinja, django templating, and hundreds more
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On 4/26/2010 7:53 AM, jaya kumar wrote:
when we using php we can embedded the code of html, and java script and
mysql bcoz it supports mulit language
I would like to answer to this.
You don't embed html and javascript in php code. Right?
Let me explain in dead simple language:
Javascript,
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Dhananjay Nene wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves >wrote:
>
> > On Monday 26 Apr 2010 4:53:05 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Dhananjay Nene
> > > wrote:
> > > [..]
> > >
> > > > Apologies at persisting in
On 26 April 2010 16:44, Dhananjay Nene wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
> abpil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Dhananjay Nene > >wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Sirtaj Singh Kang > > >wrote:
>>
>> > This is not a deal
On 26-Apr-10, at 5:30 PM, Dhananjay Nene wrote:
[snip]
Taj, the main issue isn't whether standardisation necessary for DSLs
is
feasible - but the sheer amount of effort, time, political
bickerings, and
heat that accompanies it. If one uses python we save that entire
diversion
which if carri
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Dhananjay Nene
wrote:
[..]
> And FWIW - no, I didn't read the 667 page PDF :)
Given that it's a /. link, it's cultural to not RTFA and just
pontificate about it (especially if it's a 667 page pdf). :)
--
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in
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On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On Monday 26 Apr 2010 4:53:05 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Dhananjay Nene
> > wrote:
> > [..]
> >
> > > Apologies at persisting in this .. but I do think it is a very
> > > unconventional usecase for prog
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Sirtaj Singh Kang wrote:
>
> On 26-Apr-10, at 4:47 PM, Rajeev J Sebastian wrote:
> [snip]
>
> With all due respect, I disagree that a DSL is useful for this
>> purpose. In fact, I would disagree with DSLs in most cases, especially
>> if its supposed to be used for
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Sirtaj Singh Kang wrote:
>
> On 26-Apr-10, at 4:47 PM, Rajeev J Sebastian wrote:
> [snip]
>>
>> With all due respect, I disagree that a DSL is useful for this
>> purpose. In fact, I would disagree with DSLs in most cases, especially
>> if its supposed to be used fo
On Monday 26 Apr 2010 4:53:05 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Dhananjay Nene
> wrote:
> [..]
>
> > Apologies at persisting in this .. but I do think it is a very
> > unconventional usecase for programs to be used as specifications.
>
this thread is very interesting -
On 26-Apr-10, at 4:47 PM, Rajeev J Sebastian wrote:
[snip]
With all due respect, I disagree that a DSL is useful for this
purpose. In fact, I would disagree with DSLs in most cases, especially
if its supposed to be used for programming. The reason for this is
that creating a good language is muc
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Dhananjay Nene
> wrote:
> [..]
> > Apologies at persisting in this .. but I do think it is a very
> > unconventional usecase for programs to be used as specifications.
>
You must be kidding. This is one of
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Dhananjay Nene
wrote:
[..]
> Apologies at persisting in this .. but I do think it is a very
> unconventional usecase for programs to be used as specifications.
>
> The scenario here is that the program (as in the python code) is the means
> of communication - it i
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Sirtaj Singh Kang wrote:
>
> On 26-Apr-10, at 3:46 PM, Dhananjay Nene wrote:
> [snip]
>>
>> I think a DSL based contract (or more precisely waterfall specification)
>> may
>> be more concise and self descriptive. But that would require a definition
>> of
>> a new l
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Dhananjay Nene >wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Sirtaj Singh Kang > >wrote:
>
> > This is not a deal-breaker of course, and this decision to use Python is
> a
On 26-Apr-10, at 3:46 PM, Dhananjay Nene wrote:
[snip]
I think a DSL based contract (or more precisely waterfall
specification) may
be more concise and self descriptive. But that would require a
definition of
a new language grammar. However reasoning about the contracts is
not in the
sco
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Dhananjay Nene wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Sirtaj Singh Kang >wrote:
>
> >
> > On 26-Apr-10, at 2:25 PM, Dhananjay Nene wrote:
> > [snip]
> >
> > I do see one strong plus here for Python. That is a very natural
> language
> >>>
> >> for expression (
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Dhananjay Nene wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Sirtaj Singh Kang wrote:
>
>>
>> This is not a deal-breaker of course, and this decision to use Python is
>> a sensible, pragmatic one (lots of python programmers around,
>> financial/statistical libraries a
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Sirtaj Singh Kang wrote:
>
> On 26-Apr-10, at 2:25 PM, Dhananjay Nene wrote:
> [snip]
>
> I do see one strong plus here for Python. That is a very natural language
>>>
>> for expression (as in being one of the most readable programming languages
>> for non program
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Sirtaj Singh Kang wrote:
[..]
> Meanwhile, I'll repeat something I say far too much but anyway: domain
> knowledge is just as important as programming chops. Folks who want to get
> in on the ground floor with these kinds of applications of python should
> start le
On 26-Apr-10, at 2:25 PM, Dhananjay Nene wrote:
[snip]
I do see one strong plus here for Python. That is a very natural
language
for expression (as in being one of the most readable programming
languages
for non programmers) without resorting to any specific DSLs etc.
On the contrary, I th
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Dhananjay Nene
wrote:
> Didn't mean to convey that sentiment of hanging onto the words. There's some
> good stuff of academic interest here. . Was essentially trying to
> communicate that I don't know if its such a important event at least from
> the commercial pro
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> SEC has found a way to set right those marauding
> bankers on Wall street by considering the use
> of programming languages to specify legal requirements.
> And the language of choice ? - Python!
>
>
> http:
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Dhananjay Nene <
> dhananjay.n...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Whoa! what becomes law ? From what i can understand it primarily refers
> to
> >> the preferred mechani
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Dhananjay Nene >wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
> > abpil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Anand Ba
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Dhananjay Nene
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Whoa! what becomes law ? From what i can understand it primarily refers to
>> the preferred mechanism of documenting complex waterfall provisions, in
>> fiscal projections.
>>
>
I downloaded the PDF from the SEC web-site and he
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Dhananjay Nene
> wrote:
> [..]
> >> I don't see a normal business transaction processing runtime getting
> > influenced particularly. Python is a candidate for replacing what
> otherwise
> > is likely to be
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Dhananjay Nene wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
> abpil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
> > abpil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:52
On 26 April 2010 13:53, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
[snipped]
> I don't expect people to convert in back into English but there will,
> at the very least, be a need for Python specific training.
This reminded me of something I read: here it is
http://www.ymeme.com/will-hartungs-guerilla-lisp-opus.html
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Dhananjay Nene
wrote:
[..]
>> I don't see a normal business transaction processing runtime getting
> influenced particularly. Python is a candidate for replacing what otherwise
> is likely to be done through excel spreadsheets and then resummarised using
> English.
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai
> wrote:
> [..]
> > If you don't think that as a huge business opportunity, I wonder
> > what kind of Python consultant you are ;-)[..]
>
> Oh. I do.
>
> It's just that I recen
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
> abpil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Noufal Ibrahim
> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:49 AM,
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