Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-13 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: [...] > So an approximate rule of thumb would be, > > 1. If your data is highly structured and you have complex queries > and your clients expect consistent results, stick to RDBMs. > 2. If your data is more like a simple key-value

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-12 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Ramdas S wrote: > > > Thought I will pick your brains on this. > > We are archiving a lot of information, some message format very similar to > email in structure, through its not an RFC complaint format. Presently we > are storing some basic seachable details in

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-12 Thread JAGANADH G
> And that's the reason some people dont ever use the term 'noSQL' because it > sounds like 'No SQL' and if they must they say 'noSQL' stands for 'not only > SQL' and not what it sounds. > > / > I think people understands 'NoSQL' in a wrong way. 'NoSQL' stands for 'Not only SQL' . The advantage

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-12 Thread ॥ स्वक्ष ॥
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 01:08, Jeffrey Jose wrote: > Its kinda true that noSQL started as 'death to everything that's SQL'. As > things got matured people realized noSQL is not a replacement but another > tool in developers toolbox to solve problems. I grok the 'use the right tool' as per the req

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-12 Thread Santosh Rajan
Google has BigTable as its nosql implementation. You would think that, for a mission critical massive scale operation like Google adwords, Google uses BigTable right? Wrong! They use MySQL. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AdWords#Technology Google see's so much value with what works, that in fact the

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-12 Thread Ramdas S
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Jeffrey Jose wrote: > Its kinda true that noSQL started as 'death to everything that's SQL'. As > things got matured people realized noSQL is not a replacement but another > tool in developers toolbox to solve problems. > > And that's the reason some people dont ev

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-12 Thread Jeffrey Jose
Its kinda true that noSQL started as 'death to everything that's SQL'. As things got matured people realized noSQL is not a replacement but another tool in developers toolbox to solve problems. And that's the reason some people dont ever use the term 'noSQL' because it sounds like 'No SQL' and if

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-12 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Sat, Feb 12 2011, Santosh Rajan wrote: > My 2 cents before you jump into the nosql bandwagon. > > 1) If sql works for you, stick with it. RDBMS's like postgeSQL, MySQL > will not wake you up in the middle of the night with a crash. > 2) If you have scaling problems, add some horse power to you

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-12 Thread Diptanu Choudhury
Hi Santosh, Thanks for sharing your 2 cents! So if I understand your statements correctly, you are saying RBMS/SQL is the "silver-bullet" to all of our data related problems? I am extremely curious to know what kind of _real_ experiences with NoSQL led you to form your opinion about NoSQL in gener

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-12 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Santosh Rajan wrote: > My 2 cents before you jump into the nosql bandwagon. [...] > 4) And if you still think you need nosql, god help you. All of the above were fair comments, until this last. I think that you might need to re-investigate your own biases. Contr

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-12 Thread Venkatraman S
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Santosh Rajan wrote: > My 2 cents before you jump into the nosql bandwagon. > > 1) If sql works for you, stick with it. RDBMS's like postgeSQL, MySQL > will not wake you up in the middle of the night with a crash. > 2) If you have scaling problems, add some horse

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-12 Thread Santosh Rajan
My 2 cents before you jump into the nosql bandwagon. 1) If sql works for you, stick with it. RDBMS's like postgeSQL, MySQL will not wake you up in the middle of the night with a crash. 2) If you have scaling problems, add some horse power to you hardware, battery backed RAID, and solid state hard

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-12 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Sat, Feb 12 2011, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > On Sat, Feb 12 2011, Baiju M wrote: > >> I just started from home (Banashankari), will reach the meeting place >> (Domlur) aroud 4pm. > > [...] > > I'll be there slightly after 4. We had a fun little meeting. Sorted out some task for the getpython3 we

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-12 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Sat, Feb 12 2011, Baiju M wrote: > I just started from home (Banashankari), will reach the meeting place > (Domlur) aroud 4pm. [...] I'll be there slightly after 4. -- ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailma

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-12 Thread Baiju M
I just started from home (Banashankari), will reach the meeting place (Domlur) aroud 4pm. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-11 Thread Baiju M
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >> Sidu is no longer with TW. I have Sriram's number. I will call him in >> the morning tomorrow and mail the list. I'm not sure if the venue will >> be available though. Sorry I didn't do this earlier. I was occuppied >> with the PyCon busine

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-11 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Feb 11 2011, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: [...] > Sidu is no longer with TW. I have Sriram's number. I will call him in > the morning tomorrow and mail the list. I'm not sure if the venue will > be available though. Sorry I didn't do this earlier. I was occuppied > with the PyCon business and

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-11 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Feb 11 2011, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > On Fri, Feb 11 2011, Baiju M wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Baiju M wrote: >>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:03 PM, devjyoti patra wrote: Hi All, Is tomorrow's meet confirmed? Anyone please post the details for the meet-

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-11 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Feb 11 2011, Baiju M wrote: [...] > I can see the current month archive size has become 33 KB now :) > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/inpycon/ [...] Nice metric. :) -- ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.o

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-11 Thread Baiju M
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Sidu is no longer with TW. I have Sriram's number. I will call him in > the morning tomorrow and mail the list. I'm not sure if the venue will > be available though. That's fine. > Sorry I didn't do this earlier. I was occuppied > with

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-11 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Feb 11 2011, Baiju M wrote: > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Baiju M wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:03 PM, devjyoti patra wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Is tomorrow's meet confirmed? Anyone please post the details for the >>> meet-venue and time if things have changed from this >>> h

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-11 Thread Baiju M
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Baiju M wrote: > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:03 PM, devjyoti patra wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> Is tomorrow's meet confirmed? Anyone please post the details for the >> meet-venue and time if things have changed from this >> http://doodle.com/53iqx4gdu5fuzws7 > > The mee

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-11 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
+sriram@thoughtworks. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Baiju M wrote: > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:03 PM, devjyoti patra > wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > Is tomorrow's meet confirmed? Anyone please post the details for the > > meet-venue and time if things have changed from this > > http://doodle.c

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-11 Thread Baiju M
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:03 PM, devjyoti patra wrote: > Hi All, > > Is tomorrow's meet confirmed? Anyone please post the details for the > meet-venue and time if things have changed from this > http://doodle.com/53iqx4gdu5fuzws7 The meeting will be there. But, we didn't got a confirmation abou

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-10 Thread devjyoti patra
;   2. Re: Ideas for Python concurrency... (Dhananjay Nene) >   3. Re: Ideas for Python concurrency... (Vishal) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 21:54:36 +0530 > From: Baiju M > T

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-08 Thread Baiju M
Hi All, Majority of the people are fine with Feb 12th (Saturday): http://doodle.com/53iqx4gdu5fuzws7 So, we will have a regular meeting at 3 pm on that day. If more people are interested we can have a sprint otherwise we will go for normal discussions. Can anyone from ThoughtWorks confirm the ve

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-04 Thread Baiju M
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >> These are the topics I am interested to listen: >> >> 1. Using MongoDB with Python >> 2. Python 3 porting experience >> 3. Using Jenkins/Hudson for continuous integration >> >> Well, I cannot present on any of these topics :) > > [...] > > N

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-04 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Feb 04 2011, Baiju M wrote: [...] > It looks like majority of the people prefer Feb 12th (Saturday): > http://doodle.com/53iqx4gdu5fuzws7 > We can finalize the date by next Tuesday (Feb 8th) > based on the majority preference. > > Meanwhile let's discuss about the agenda for the meeting.

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-03 Thread Baiju M
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > On Fri, Feb 04 2011, Baiju M wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Let's have a meeting this month ?  I have created a Doodle for this: >> http://doodle.com/53iqx4gdu5fuzws7 >> Please add your convenient dates. >> >> We can meet at ThoughtWorks place: h

Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-03 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Feb 04 2011, Baiju M wrote: > Hi All, > > Let's have a meeting this month ? I have created a Doodle for this: > http://doodle.com/53iqx4gdu5fuzws7 > Please add your convenient dates. > > We can meet at ThoughtWorks place: http://goo.gl/AmDA9 > If they have any inconvenience, we can move s

[BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011

2011-02-03 Thread Baiju M
Hi All, Let's have a meeting this month ? I have created a Doodle for this: http://doodle.com/53iqx4gdu5fuzws7 Please add your convenient dates. We can meet at ThoughtWorks place: http://goo.gl/AmDA9 If they have any inconvenience, we can move some other place. Regards, Baiju M