There may be several other metrics too.
1. Increasing usage of the language in both open source and commercial
packages
2. Job listings
3. Activity in the discussion groups
The download activity may not completely measure since some distributions
may include several standard packages (I may be c
I am not interested in fanning flames. Sorry to compare the wrong statistics.
However it would be interesting to compare the downloads of these so-called
Zope packages w.r.t the downloads of the other packages listed here. That
would be a right comparison, won't it ?
Increased downloads of existin
On 1/10/08, Anand Balachandran Pillai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, that kind of goes against the theory that Python growth was mostly due
> to Zope related packages, doesn't it ?
>
O RLY!?
AFAIK, I was the one who mentioned zope packages, so let me point out
something.
I said, the growth i
The TIOBE page has been updated. TIOBE declares Python as the programming
language of 2007.
http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm
--Anand
On Jan 9, 2008 7:54 PM, Sridhar Ratnakumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://blog.showmedo.com/2008/01/08/growth-in-python-project-popularity/
>
> --
>
> http://nea
Well, that kind of goes against the theory that Python growth was mostly due
to Zope related packages, doesn't it ?
--Anand
On Jan 9, 2008 7:54 PM, Sridhar Ratnakumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://blog.showmedo.com/2008/01/08/growth-in-python-project-popularity/
>
> --
>
> http://nearfar.or
http://blog.showmedo.com/2008/01/08/growth-in-python-project-popularity/
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My guess is that popularity impact has to be in terms of number of jobs
(commercial/freelance) out there.
Books are fair indication of hype, but not necessarily the actual use of a
language/technology.
However what I feel is more important is the impact based on the strategies
rolled out by glob
'Comments ratio' looks interesting,
http://www.ohloh.net/languages?sort=comment_ratio (ohloh covers most
active open source projects)
The lack of abstractions in Java code is reflected by its huge 35%
comment ratio! Python is way below in rank for obvious reasons. :-)
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Hard book sales need not indicate growing popularity of a language.
In a way it could indicate that the language is more used in the
software industry, because the typical buyer of an open source
language book does it for a company project. For Python the
lesser book sales I think indicates that th
Number of packages to a good extent can be taken as a indicator of the
reach of the language (though it makes sense more to languages like
python, perl, ruby etc). Perl has a long history. CPAN has almost
every thing you require. The growth won't be really feeble, still
number of packages for perl
On 1/4/08, Anand Balachandran Pillai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ruby: 3.5%
> PHP: 5.2%
> Perl: 9.8%
> Python: 35.8%
Well, absolute growth figures can be misleading. If number of packages
goes from 10 to 15, there is a growth of 50%!!
So, for a language like perl, which already has 10k+ packages
I think you made a mistake by dividing over the total number of
packages. The percentages shown by dividing the incremental
growth of say Perl by the total growth does not give any indication
of an index. It is like adding apples to oranges.
The more valid index is the relative growth of the packa
> Last year (May 2007) I posted a blog about comparing different package
> repositories (http://baijum81.livejournal.com/20775.html).
>
> The total number of packages in different repositories was like this:
>
> 1. Perl (11643) http://cpan.org/
> 2. Python (2392) http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi
>
> Last year (May 2007) I posted a blog about comparing different package
> repositories (http://baijum81.livejournal.com/20775.html).
>
> The total number of packages in different repositories was like this:
>
> 1. Perl (11643) http://cpan.org/
> 2. Python (2392) http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi
>
Last year (May 2007) I posted a blog about comparing different package
repositories (http://baijum81.livejournal.com/20775.html).
The total number of packages in different repositories was like this:
1. Perl (11643) http://cpan.org/
2. Python (2392) http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi
3. Ruby (1587
* Indrajith K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-03 19:44:39]:
>
> So, in case Python rating drops in the future, I don't mind. Its the
> best programming language I have come across.
>
+1 for QOTW.
I agree and that should be our stance. :-)
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Sridhar,
Thanks. Some wonderful resources.
Dorai
On Jan 3, 2008 8:17 PM, Sridhar Ratnakumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 3, 2008 7:53 PM, Dorai Thodla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This is a great discussion. We can look at some factors and trends:
> >
> > 1. Adoption of Python in leadin
On Jan 3, 2008 7:53 PM, Dorai Thodla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is a great discussion. We can look at some factors and trends:
>
> 1. Adoption of Python in leading influencers in marketplace (Third most used
> language in Google, IronPython on the rise in Microsoft, Python efforts at
> Sun e
This is a great discussion. We can look at some factors and trends:
1. Adoption of Python in leading influencers in marketplace (Third most used
language in Google, IronPython on the rise in Microsoft, Python efforts at
Sun etc.)
2. Typical sponsors, attendees of Python conferences like PyCon
3. T
Its nice to see Python moving up the ladder. But it has to be seen how
to interpret this statistics. The word "popular" if I could make out
is rated by its presence in the internet. The web site clearly
mentions "Observe that the TIOBE index is not about the best
programming language or the languag
Anand,
I have been tracking TIOBE for a while and have a couple of blogs on it.
They do explain their methodology here:
http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm
Dorai
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P.S: http://dorai.wordpress.com/?s=%22programming+language+trends%22
On Jan 3, 2008 6:56 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <[EM
I notice that Javascript is a non mover. Surprising, there is no dearth of
new ajax apps, launched shipping and being announced every day.
On Jan 3, 2008 6:56 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> A few more observations...
>
> o The language "D" is slowly on its way up.
>
A few more observations...
o The language "D" is slowly on its way up.
o Lua has the fastest growth from posn 46 to posn 20!
o Contrary to popular jokes, COBOL is still alive and in fact growing :D
This validates my theory that the very high level language trio of
Python, Ruby,PHP
and its associa
The TIOBE programming languages community index {http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm}
shows that Python has gone a step higher in Dec 07 when compared to Dec 06.
Python was at position 7 in 06 and now it is at position 6. Ruby has jumped
two notches from position 11 to position 9.
Other interesting tre
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