[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: D-minor tuning and ET? Remedy?

2009-12-12 Thread Mathias Rösel
Chris, your work commands my respect, seriously. I would never figure to do that myself. My eletronic device isn't as fine as to show exact single cents. What's more, I wouldn't dare to position frets so that all the notes accurately fit. BTW, no need to call me Herr on an English-speaking list.

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: D-minor tuning and ET? Remedy?

2009-12-12 Thread chriswilke
Herr Roesel, I used the most historically accurate method: an electronic tuner. ;-) Once got the open strings, I fidgeted frets around by ear depending on the key and context (which is actually the historical precedent). If needed, I would sometimes re-finger passages to include different f

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: D-minor tuning and ET? Remedy?

2009-12-12 Thread wikla
Thanks to everyone! To me lowering a little the open string a's and lowering a little the 4th fret really made it! Now the instrument sounds like a lute! All best, Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: D-minor tuning and ET? Remedy?

2009-12-12 Thread Mathias Rösel
Could say how to do that? Mathias schrieb: > I've found that Kirnberger III works pretty well. I used it for a while > although I'm back to ET nowadays. > > Chris > > --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Edward Martin wrote: > > > From: Edward Martin > > Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: D-minor tuning and ET

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: D-minor tuning and ET? Remedy?

2009-12-12 Thread Mathias Rösel
I wonder how to do that. In French flat, the basic chords are ch. C mj A mn g' -a|r-- e' -a|a-- c' -a|a-- a-d|a-- e-d|a-- B-b|b-- bass 5 a - ch. G mj F mj g' -a|r-- e' -d|-

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: D-minor tuning and ET? Remedy?

2009-12-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Whilst agreeing that much of the 18thC Dm repertoire requires equal temperament (or near), there's a case for some form of meantone for the earlier French repertoire which asks for fewer modulations and generally uses less extreme keys. The ubiquitous use of unisons (eg open first

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: D-minor tuning and ET? Remedy?

2009-12-12 Thread Markus Lutz
Sometimes I also lowered the 4th course a little bit, what works pretty well and sounds very good in F maj, d min etc. Unfortunately we don't have any historical evidence about tuning temperaments, as far as I know. But I'm pretty sure that the lutenists then tuned the lute in a tempered way.