Hi Danny and the b-List,

thanks Danny for your very interesting subject! I've been waiting for eager
comments, but nothing have I seen yet... So I must start, and perhaps also
provoke a little... :)

It really is quite ambigious to put borderlines between the "periods" of
music, and it is even more difficult to name those periods. Everything
mixes and blands, always. In your case: Ennemond G. is clearly in the "hard
core" French style, perhaps Dennis too. But what about Mouton, not to speak
of Gallot le jeune. And then we have the German Reusner, still very French
most often. And then we come to Losy, a little less French, but very far
off Weiss. And from Losy we go to the other names you listed (see below).
Not yet rococo, not any more so French, much more "cantabile italiano"...

I think that perhaps the adjective "Austrian" or perhaps even "Imperial"
(;-) could be used. At least most of the places, where this style flowered
were governed by the Hapsburger Kaiser living in Vienna...;-)

Another view is that - in my opinion - a period shoud not be named by its
neighboroughing periods: "transition between Gaultier and Weiss" mocks and
lessens the value of the wonderful period we are talkig of! Agree? And as
far as I have understood, the word "transitional" in the case you talk,
refers mostly to the changing tunings in that time. So even that period is
not "transitional" in musical sense, but only in the technical sense:
testing the tuning alternatives. There are actually here and there some of
the very same pieces in different tuning patterns.

So my suggestion is "Austrian". It is not optimal, I agree, But neither is
the word "French" referring to the vast repertoire in that style composed
around our Europe. And are we going to save the adjective  "German" to
refer to Weiss, Falkenhagen and their gang of 13's? Comments?

All the best (= Alles gut)

Arto

On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:36:45 -0400, Daniel Shoskes <dshos...@mac.com>
wrote:
> Having spent much happy time on my 11 course lute playing the music of
> Reusner, Conradi, Kellner, Weichenberger and St. Luc, it dawns on me that
> we don't really have a good descriptor for the period. It is after the
> French precieux and Brise styles (but has some elements), brings in more
of
> a cantabile Italian relationship between melody and bass line but doesn't
> go all the way to the Gallant emphasis on melody (I am sure I have made
> many a musicologist cringe with my oversimplifications here). Many
> recordings that include pieces from the period are titled "German Baroque
> Lute Music", or something similar, but that of course doesn't give a fair
> geographic representation to the Czech, Silesian, Swedish and Belgian
> composers. "Transitional" would be a good descriptive term but alas has
> already been coapted by those funny tuning systems between Renaissance
and
> d minor. 
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Danny
> 
> 
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