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Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 3:06 PM
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A query from Bob Barto
Jorge Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
Mathias:
Robert Barto and I have been going back and forth off the list, and he
has
With this issue, I'd avoid alternatives of right or wrong (as though is
was wrong to play La Belle Homicide, occasionally using RH ringfinger -
it's comfortable at some places).
Far more interesting IMHO is that there is a striking contrast between
LeSage and Kniebandl, viewed as representatives
Has anyone done research into the bridge string
spacing on extant lutes and how that relates to using
the ring finger? For instance the Edlinger lute
'Vienna AR969' has a bridge spacing that is 156mm
which is quite large. I first learned baroque lute on
a close copy of this instrument with the
I would deflect anyone from wasting too much time into spacing research.
Any spacing under 156mm has been empirically proven to be untenable.
The lutes that survive with smaller spacing where probably made to be for
the Damen, and didn't (or couldn't) get played much.
RT
Has anyone done
In the 17th century LeSage de Richee (1695), a self-proclaimed student of
Mouton, uses three dots to indicate the right hand ring finger, but that's
a 13-course instrument. None of the printed French sources prior to 1700
(Gault I and II, Gallot, Perinne, or Mouton) use the ring finger.
Jorge
Sorry, the designation I mentioned is from a MS for 13 course with
instructions by LeSage, noted in Doug Smith and Peter Danner's article How
Beginners...Should Proceed, JLSA, 1976.
Jorge
On 1/5/07 12:14 PM, Mathias Rösel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jorge Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Jorge,
as far as I know, Mathias is right.
There are even in later mss only few hints that the ringfinger was used
at all - but there are only few RH fingerings at all.
Although I think that Falkenhagen etc. were using the ringfinger, there
are to my knowledge no direct RH fingerings at all.
Sorry, the designation I mentioned is from a MS for 13 course with
instructions by LeSage, noted in Doug Smith and Peter Danner's article How
I think Jorge is speaking about a manuscript that contains the
instructions by Lesage de R. but different music (for 13c. lute).
In that music appear
List:
The Burwell informant makes it clear that the ring finger is not used:
For the forefinger of the right hand we mark one dot; for the second
finger, two dots. The two other fingers we do not use. (Dart, 31)
This is in line with the printed French sources prior to 1700 (Gault I and
II,
