[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Edlinger Lutes

2013-10-18 Thread Roman Turovsky
I'm flabbergasted anyone likes any other. RT On 10/18/2013 3:42 PM, Bernd Haegemann wrote: So, the discussion is closed ;-)) Am 18.10.2013 21:26, schrieb Roman Turovsky: Edlinger is my favorite model. RT On 10/18/2013 3:03 PM, BENJAMIN NARVEY wrote: Dear All, I am getting a small

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Edlinger Lutes

2013-10-18 Thread Bernd Haegemann
So, the discussion is closed ;-)) Am 18.10.2013 21:26, schrieb Roman Turovsky: Edlinger is my favorite model. RT On 10/18/2013 3:03 PM, BENJAMIN NARVEY wrote: Dear All, I am getting a small theorbo made after Edlinger, but my lute maker feels the model is excessively thin; she i

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Edlinger Lutes

2013-10-18 Thread Roman Turovsky
Edlinger is my favorite model. RT On 10/18/2013 3:03 PM, BENJAMIN NARVEY wrote: Dear All, I am getting a small theorbo made after Edlinger, but my lute maker feels the model is excessively thin; she is worried about sound/projection. I should think the sound may be less complex

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Edlinger Lutes in South Dakota - another thought

2008-02-08 Thread Rob Lute
There is a picture somewhere of a thumb or finger attachment. It might be this one, but it is not clear enough, and looks like the left hand - the picture may be the wrong way around: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/spencer/html/Page%20415.html Rob MacKillop -- To get on or off this list see list in

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Edlinger Lutes in South Dakota - another thought

2008-02-07 Thread Anthony Hind
Ed I am still surprised that the long nails succeeded in marking through the strings. Does anyone know of guitare players leaving similar marks? Do you not think that the luthist might have invented some sort of extentions to his fingers? These things could be made by anyone. Look at th

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Edlinger Lutes in South Dakota - another thought

2008-02-07 Thread Edward Martin
No trouble at all, Martyn. Yes, the marks clearly indicate that it was played as a 13 course lute, as I have been saying. It shows a hundred or so thumb nail marks near the rose, and the corresponding marks from finger playing while in this position. Also, if one were strumming with a plectru

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Edlinger Lutes in South Dakota - another thought

2008-02-07 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Martyn Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:57:24 + (GMT) From: Martyn Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Edlinger Lutes in South Dakota - another thought To: Rob Lute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Edlinger Lutes in South Dakota - another thought

2008-02-07 Thread Rob Lute
We musn't forget that strumming is not unknown on the lute, 11c lutes at least. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Edlinger Lutes in South Dakota - another thought

2008-02-07 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Thank you. Sorry to press you a wee bit but do you think it was played in its 13 course form because of the pattern of the marks? ie do they dissapear or become significantly fainter under where the 1st to 13th courses would run? Even if so, its last played state and that causing the mark

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Edlinger Lutes in South Dakota

2008-02-07 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Thanks for this. Well if not 'Wandervogel' as such (tho' I read the movement started in the last decade of the 19thC - well before 1907), perhaps guitar like strung nevertheless? MH Edward Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Good idea, but no, absolutely unlikely. They were documented to

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Edlinger Lutes in South Dakota

2008-02-06 Thread Andreas Schlegel
If we take a breaking point at 260 Hz/m (Mimmo wrote from strings like that), and a a'=392 Hz (and so the the f' is 311 Hz) we are between the normal breaking point at 321 Hz and the normal stress point (breaking point minus one semitone) at 303 Hz. The four known German theorboes have string

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Edlinger Lutes in South Dakota

2008-02-06 Thread sterling price
I have a copy of a 76cm Edlinger, and have been playing it for 14 years. I tune it to a=415, but with modern strings of course. It sounds great and the big size it really not a problem for 99% of the music. At 82cm it might be really pushing it though... Sterling I really do not know. It is

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Edlinger Lutes in South Dakota

2008-02-06 Thread Are Vidar Boye Hansen
Does this mean that this instrument could have been tuned in the "theorbo" tuning mentioned by Baron? Are > Great question. The answer is simple. It would have been strung with a > standard treble, in the usual fashion. I have not worked out what the top > pitch would be - certainly _not_

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Edlinger Lutes in South Dakota

2008-02-06 Thread Anthony Hind
Ed and Martyn A similar idea came to me when I mentioned those devices that can be added to the fingers, in blues playing (although I thought some such contraptions might have existed at the time). When an instrument is not kept in museum conditions, we can never be sure that it has not bee

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Edlinger Lutes in South Dakota

2008-02-06 Thread Anthony Hind
Ed What sort of treble string could support 81cm? I am amazed. Anthony Le 6 févr. 08 à 14:08, Edward Martin a écrit : At 01:40 PM 2/6/2008 +0100, Anthony Hind wrote: Interesting Ed. It is true that is these are just surface scratches, they could have been erased. As you mentioned a lo

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Edlinger Lutes in South Dakota

2008-02-06 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Thank you for this. Just a thought, but the marks on the belly over and above the rose sound a bit like the sort of marks left by a strumming guitarist. Could it have been used as a 'Wandervogel' lute/guitar in the early20th century? I realise it's got many more than 6 courses but I pre

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Edlinger Lutes in South Dakota

2008-02-06 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Ed Thank you so much for this account, you have almost made us feel as though we were there with you, and the information is so interesting. The marks you noticed towards the bridge seem to confirm the images on the Aquila page; and Mimmo Peruffo also told me something similar