Strongly seconded dear Peter! Thanks again!
Arto
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 15:04:24 +0200, "Bernhard Fischer" <fischer...@aon.at>
wrote:
> Dear Peter, I can assure you that your database is of enormous value to
all
> of us. Bernhard.
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im
> Auftrag
> von Peter Steur
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. Juni 2011 11:06
> An: Baroque Lute
> Betreff: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Rif: Re: Pachelbel B-lute pieces
>
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> Hi Friends,
>
> it was indeed me that entered the pieces on Wayne's site, using TAB,
among
> various other pieces. But soon after I had to stop intabulating for lack
of
> time.
> In the mean time many things have changed, also regarding computers. As a
> result you now have at your disposal my Database on
http://mss.slweiss.de,
> where I have now split the two 'Pachelbel' folios in Nst2353a and
Nst2353b,
> and added immediately the Incipits as well.
>
> I'm glad the database is of use to you guys....
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> -------Messaggio originale-------
>
> Da: wayne cripps
> Data: 07/06/2011 15.35.45
> A: l...@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: Pachelbel B-lute pieces
>
> I have corrected the bourdons. The piece was entered by Peter Steur
> back before computers regularly did midi. I am surprised that Goran
> did not remember how to correct the tab version as he has contributed
some
> pieces to my collection.
>
> Wayne
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: "G. Crona" <kalei...@gmail.com>
>> Date: June 7, 2011 6:50:18 AM EDT
>> To: <baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
>> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Pachelbel B-lute pieces
>>
>> Yes here:
>>
>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/tab-serv/tab-serv.cgi?Baroque_lute
>>
>> with a hopelessly corrupted midi for the diapasons
>>
>> G.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roman Turovsky" <r.turovsky@verizon
> net>
>> To: "Stuart Walsh" <s.wa...@ntlworld.com>; "Markus Lutz" <markus@gmlutz
> de>
>> Cc: "Bernd Haegemann" <b...@symbol4.de>; "wikla" <wi...@cs.helsinki.fi>;
> <baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>; <theoj89...@aol.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 12:30 PM
>> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Pachelbel B-lute pieces
>>
>>
>>> The suite in F#minor is in the Wayne's pages somewhere.
>>> RT
>>>
>>> From: "Markus Lutz" <mar...@gmlutz.de>
>>> This is the "Paisane" from D-Nst ms 2353a/b
>>> 2 Paisane del Sigre Pachelbel (Pachelbel?)
>>> C-Dur - D-Nst2353 / 2v
>>> Best regards
>>> Markus
>>>
>>> Am 07.06.2011 10:46, schrieb Stuart Walsh:
>>>> On 07/06/2011 08:41, Bernd Haegemann wrote:
>>>>>> I have a vague memory of seeing name Pachelbel mentioned in some
> b-lute
>>>>>> mss; and I have not seen the two mss in Peter's listing - actually I
> am
>>>>>> quite sure I've seen it...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Arto, I have the same impression. I have seen the name Pachelbel
>>>>> - but I have never seen the two mss in question...
>>>>>
>>>>> best wishes
>>>>> Bernd
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Me too. I have a dim memory and even even dimmer ancient photocopies.
>>>> Here's one which I think has the name Pachelbel but it's hard to read.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/P.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Stuart
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the other hand I doubt P. himself composed anything directly to
> lute
>>>>>> solo; so I guess the mss's pieces are arrangements themselves. So
why
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> you arrange your P. favorites to the b-lute by yourself, Theo? My
>>>>>> tiny
>>>>>> experience suggests that baroque pieces work often quite well on
> baroque
>>>>>> lute. Same feeling, by the way, in renaissance pieces being suitable
>>>>>> to the
>>>>>> renaissance lute... Perhaps this is not just a coincidence... :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Arto
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 21:32:45 +0200, "Bernd Haegemann" <b...@symbol4.de>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> beste Theo,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are there a few pieces composed by Johann Pachelbel in a baroque
> lute
>>>>>>>> manuscript somewhere
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://mss.slweiss.de/index
> php?lang=deu&id=2&type=mss&st=0&nm=50&title=&key=&msnam=&comp=Pachelbel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (does my memory serve me correct)? If so, which manuscript, and do
> they
>>>>>>> have any musical
>>>>>>> interest?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have they been recorded? thanks, trj
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I only know of one recording:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.amazon.de/Resveur-Anthony-Bailes/dp/B00009VGUU
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> groeten
>>>>>>> Bernd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To get on or off this list see list information at
>>>>>>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Markus Lutz
>>> Schulstraße 11
>>>
>>> 88422 Bad Buchau
>>>
>>> Tel 0 75 82 / 92 62 89
>>> Fax 0 75 82 / 92 62 90
>>> Mail mar...@gmlutz.de
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> <DIV>Hi Friends,</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>it was indeed me that entered the pieces on Wayne's site, using TAB,
> among various other pieces. But soon after I had to stop intabulating for
> lack of time.</DIV>
> <DIV>In the mean time many things have changed, also regarding computers.
> As
> a result you now have at your disposal my Database on <A
> href="http://mss.slweiss.de";>http://mss.slweiss.de</A>, where I have now
> split the two 'Pachelbel' folios in Nst2353a and Nst2353b, and added
> immediately the Incipits as well.</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>I'm glad the database is of use to you guys....</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>Regards,</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>Peter</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV></DIV></DIV>
> <DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV id=IncrediOriginalMessage dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE:
> 11pt"><I>-------Messaggio originale-------</I></DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV id=receivestrings>
> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Da:</B></I> <A
> href="mailto:wst...@cs.dartmouth.edu";>wayne cripps</A></DIV>
> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Data:</B></I> 07/06/2011
> 15.35.45</DIV>
> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>A:</B></I> <A
> href="mailto:l...@cs.dartmouth.edu";>l...@cs.dartmouth.edu</A></DIV>
> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Oggetto:</B></I> [LUTE] Re:
> Pachelbel B-lute pieces</DIV></DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>I have corrected the bourdons. The piece was entered by
> Peter Steur</DIV>
> <DIV>back before computers regularly did midi. I am surprised
> that Goran</DIV>
> <DIV>did not remember how to correct the tab version as he has
contributed
> some</DIV>
> <DIV>pieces to my collection.</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV> Wayne</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>Begin forwarded message:</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>> From: "G. Crona" <<A
> href="mailto:kalei...@gmail.com";>kalei...@gmail.com</A>></DIV>
> <DIV>> Date: June 7, 2011 6:50:18 AM EDT</DIV>
> <DIV>> To: <<A
>
href="mailto:baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu";>baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu</A
>>></DIV>
> <DIV>> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Pachelbel B-lute pieces</DIV>
> <DIV>></DIV>
> <DIV>> Yes here:</DIV>
> <DIV>></DIV>
> <DIV>> <A
>
href="http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/tab-serv/tab-serv.cgi?Baroque_lute";>h
>
ttp://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/tab-serv/tab-serv.cgi?Baroque_lute</A></DIV>
> <DIV>></DIV>
> <DIV>> with a hopelessly corrupted midi for the diapasons</DIV>
> <DIV>></DIV>
> <DIV>> G.</DIV>
> <DIV>></DIV>
> <DIV>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roman Turovsky" <<A
> href="mailto:r.turov...@verizon.net";>r.turov...@verizon.net</A>></DIV>
> <DIV>> To: "Stuart Walsh" <<A
> href="mailto:s.wa...@ntlworld.com";>s.wa...@ntlworld.com</A>>; "Markus
> Lutz" <<A href="mailto:mar...@gmlutz.de";>mar...@gmlutz.de</A>></DIV>
> <DIV>> Cc: "Bernd Haegemann" <<A
> href="mailto:b...@symbol4.de";>b...@symbol4.de</A>>; "wikla" <<A
> href="mailto:wi...@cs.helsinki.fi";>wi...@cs.helsinki.fi</A>>; <<A
>
href="mailto:baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu";>baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu</A
>>>; <<A
> href="mailto:theoj89...@aol.com";>theoj89...@aol.com</A>></DIV>
> <DIV>> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 12:30 PM</DIV>
> <DIV>> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Pachelbel B-lute pieces</DIV>
> <DIV>></DIV>
> <DIV>></DIV>
> <DIV>>> The suite in F#minor is in the Wayne's pages somewhere.</DIV>
> <DIV>>> RT</DIV>
> <DIV>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>> From: "Markus Lutz" <<A
> href="mailto:mar...@gmlutz.de";>mar...@gmlutz.de</A>></DIV>
> <DIV>>> This is the "Paisane" from D-Nst ms 2353a/b</DIV>
> <DIV>>> 2 Paisane del Sigre Pachelbel (Pachelbel?)</DIV>
> <DIV>>> C-Dur - D-Nst2353 /
> 2v</DIV>
> <DIV>>> Best regards</DIV>
> <DIV>>> Markus</DIV>
> <DIV>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>> Am 07.06.2011 10:46, schrieb Stuart Walsh:</DIV>
> <DIV>>>> On 07/06/2011 08:41, Bernd Haegemann wrote:</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>> I have a vague memory of seeing name Pachelbel
> mentioned in some b-lute</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>> mss; and I have not seen the two mss in Peter's
> listing - actually I am</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>> quite sure I've seen it...</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>> Dear Arto, I have the same impression. I have seen
> the
> name Pachelbel</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>> - but I have never seen the two mss in
> question...</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>> best wishes</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>> Bernd</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>> Me too. I have a dim memory and even even dimmer ancient
> photocopies.</DIV>
> <DIV>>>> Here's one which I think has the name Pachelbel but it's
> hard to read.</DIV>
> <DIV>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>> <A
>
href="http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/P.jpg";>http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk
> /P.jpg</A></DIV>
> <DIV>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>> Stuart</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>> On the other hand I doubt P. himself composed
> anything directly to lute</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>> solo; so I guess the mss's pieces are
> arrangements
> themselves. So why</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>> don't</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>> you arrange your P. favorites to the b-lute by
> yourself, Theo? My tiny</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>> experience suggests that baroque pieces work
> often
> quite well on baroque</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>> lute. Same feeling, by the way, in renaissance
> pieces being suitable</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>> to the</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>> renaissance lute... Perhaps this is not just a
> coincidence... :)</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>> Best,</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>> Arto</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>> On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 21:32:45 +0200, "Bernd
> Haegemann" <<A href="mailto:b...@symbol4.de";>b...@symbol4.de</A>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>> wrote:</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>> beste Theo,</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>>> Are there a few pieces composed by Johann
> Pachelbel in a baroque lute</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>>> manuscript somewhere</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>> <A
> href="http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?lang=deu&id=2&type=mss&st=
> 0&nm=50&title=&key=&msnam=&comp=Pachelbel">http://mss.sl
> weiss.de/index.php?lang=deu&id=2&type=mss&st=0&nm=50&tit
> le=&key=&msnam=&comp=Pachelbel</A></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>> (does my memory serve me correct)? If so,
> which manuscript, and do they</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>> have any musical</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>> interest?</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>>> Have they been recorded? thanks,
> trj</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>> I only know of one recording:</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>> <A
>
href="http://www.amazon.de/Resveur-Anthony-Bailes/dp/B00009VGUU";>http://www.
> amazon.de/Resveur-Anthony-Bailes/dp/B00009VGUU</A></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>> groeten</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>> Bernd</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>> To get on or off this list see list
> information at</DIV>
> <DIV>>>>>>> <A
>
href="http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html";>http://www.cs.
> dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html</A></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>> --</DIV>
> <DIV>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>> Markus Lutz</DIV>
> <DIV>>> Schulstraße 11</DIV>
> <DIV>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>> 88422 Bad Buchau</DIV>
> <DIV>>></DIV>
> <DIV>>> Tel 0 75 82 / 92 62 89</DIV>
> <DIV>>> Fax 0 75 82 / 92 62 90</DIV>
> <DIV>>> Mail <A
> href="mailto:mar...@gmlutz.de";>mar...@gmlutz.de</A></DIV>
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