Re: [basex-talk] Joining a varying number of information sources (with XQuery)?

2022-04-18 Thread Graydon
On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 10:42:28PM +0200, Markus Elfring scripsit: > I propose once more to take another look at specification efforts for > join conditions (or constraints). What specific problem is it that you're trying to solve? What thing do you want to do that you do not believe you can do i

Re: [basex-talk] Joining a varying number of information sources (with XQuery)?

2022-04-18 Thread Graydon
On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 10:33:19PM +0200, Markus Elfring scripsit: > > This makes "source of information" too complex to define a standard > > operation you can call a join; … > I find that this view will need further clarification. To join something, you minimally need at least two expressions wh

Re: [basex-talk] Joining a varying number of information sources (with XQuery)?

2022-04-18 Thread Markus Elfring
> > Would you like to check the influence of numbers according to joinable > items > once more on data processing efforts? > > > Are you asking about how well XQuery implementations perform compared to SQL > databases? Not directly. >   For a particular kind of query? Yes. I propo

Re: [basex-talk] Joining a varying number of information sources (with XQuery)?

2022-04-18 Thread Markus Elfring
> This makes "source of information" too complex to define a standard > operation you can call a join; … I find that this view will need further clarification. >> I guess that you prefer to refer to them as “predicates within steps” so far >> (according to path expressions). >> https://www.w3.o

Re: [basex-talk] Joining a varying number of information sources (with XQuery)?

2022-04-18 Thread Jonathan Robie
Responses inline ... On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 3:54 PM Markus Elfring wrote: > > > We were looking at joining and combining diverse datasets as a key use > case for XQuery. > > This technical requirement is generally fine. > > > It's possible that we missed something, > > Do preferences matter i

Re: [basex-talk] Joining a varying number of information sources (with XQuery)?

2022-04-18 Thread Markus Elfring
> We were looking at joining and combining diverse datasets as a key use case > for XQuery. This technical requirement is generally fine. >   It's possible that we missed something, Do preferences matter if combinations of information sources are performed with a key word like “JOIN” (or

Re: [basex-talk] Joining a varying number of information sources (with XQuery)?

2022-04-18 Thread Graydon
On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 10:04:42AM +0200, Markus Elfring scripsit: > >> See also: > >> https://www.w3.org/TR/xquery-31/#id-joins > >> > > You can do join _operations_, > > I would appreciate further clarification for the distinction > which you present here. "Join" functionally means "get informat

Re: [basex-talk] Joining a varying number of information sources (with XQuery)?

2022-04-18 Thread Jonathan Robie
> > Customised data structures can be created together with XQuery maps and > arrays. > But I find that a join operation would be needed before based on available > identification data. > Could you please write up a few use cases with data to show where you are running into difficulty? I am worki

Re: [basex-talk] Joining a varying number of information sources (with XQuery)?

2022-04-18 Thread Markus Elfring
>> See also: >> https://www.w3.org/TR/xquery-31/#id-joins >> > You can do join _operations_, I would appreciate further clarification for the distinction which you present here. > but you aren't doing them on tables > (unless you did extra work to represent the ta