Re: bcm4301: A mac80211 driver using V3 firmware

2007-07-22 Thread Michael Buesch
On Friday 20 July 2007 22:41, Larry Finger wrote: John W. Linville wrote: ACK...fwiw, I like the b43 name suggestion. I wonder if that is too prone to confusion w/ b44? Probably no worse than ixgb vs cxgb3 or e100 vs e1000 I suppose. Today's discussion was very useful for me - I

Re: bcm4301: A mac80211 driver using V3 firmware

2007-07-20 Thread Holger Schurig
3. If the port of softmac to mac80211 is merged before Michael's driver, it will be known as bcm43xx with bcm43xx-mac80211 remaining in wireless-dev. Renaming a driver always creates madness. For example, even now people and projects (e.g. Kismet) refer to madwifi-ng, but there is no

Re: bcm4301: A mac80211 driver using V3 firmware

2007-07-20 Thread David Woodhouse
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 00:43 -0400, Pavel Roskin wrote: That's a very good goal. I would also consider the option to use different names for v3 and v4 firmware. I have a file /etc/modprobe.d/bcm43xx that reads options bcm43xx fwpostfix=.3 options bcm43xx_mac80211 fwpostfix=.4 but we

Re: bcm4301: A mac80211 driver using V3 firmware

2007-07-20 Thread John W. Linville
On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 12:43:16AM -0400, Pavel Roskin wrote: On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 20:38 -0500, Larry Finger wrote: 4. Once bcm43xx-mac80211 gets merged to mainline, then Michael's driver should become bcm43xx and my driver gets its PCI IDs stripped to the 802.11b-only devices and once

Re: bcm4301: A mac80211 driver using V3 firmware

2007-07-20 Thread Pavel Roskin
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 09:44 -0400, John W. Linville wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 12:43:16AM -0400, Pavel Roskin wrote: Actually, the common practice is that the new driver that doesn't supplant the old driver immediately and for the whole range of hardware gets a new name. Think

Re: bcm4301: A mac80211 driver using V3 firmware

2007-07-20 Thread Ehud Gavron
Not a developer, just a tester, and not a very good one... but I am a _USER_ so here's my take. The USERs don't want to know what card they have or what driver they need or PCI IDs. That's all stuff that makes them say Linux Bad, *s good. (Yeah I know, there's the whole driver moreass

Re: bcm4301: A mac80211 driver using V3 firmware

2007-07-20 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hello, Ehud! On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 09:33 -0700, Ehud Gavron wrote: The USERs don't want to know what card they have or what driver they need or PCI IDs. That's all stuff that makes them say Linux Bad, *s good. (Yeah I know, there's the whole driver moreass there and PCI VENs too) but

Re: bcm4301: A mac80211 driver using V3 firmware

2007-07-20 Thread John W. Linville
On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 01:57:48PM -0400, Pavel Roskin wrote: On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 09:33 -0700, Ehud Gavron wrote: The driver should have a name that reflects its use and capabilities. Not necessarily. End users should be shielded from such details by distributions. Do you know the

Re: bcm4301: A mac80211 driver using V3 firmware

2007-07-19 Thread Johannes Berg
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 17:58 -0400, John W. Linville wrote: Regarding hardware support, I have begun to lean towards having the v3 driver continue to support all the hardware it does now. I agree, until we can sort out the issues with that. What exactly do we gain from using the v4 firmware?

Re: bcm4301: A mac80211 driver using V3 firmware

2007-07-19 Thread John W. Linville
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 09:34:55AM -0500, Larry Finger wrote: My plan is to clean up the code, check it with my BCM4306 and BCM4318 devices, and then make it available as a patch against the mainline source for more general testing. At the same time, I will publish the results of my

Re: bcm4301: A mac80211 driver using V3 firmware

2007-07-19 Thread Stefano Brivio
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:58:01 -0400 John W. Linville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you proposing to add a third driver and deprecate the softmac driver? Or can we treat this as a port of the existing driver to mac80211? I think that might be better for users and distros, and might let us get

Re: bcm4301: A mac80211 driver using V3 firmware

2007-07-19 Thread Larry Finger
Stefano Brivio wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:58:01 -0400 John W. Linville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you proposing to add a third driver and deprecate the softmac driver? Or can we treat this as a port of the existing driver to mac80211? I think that might be better for users and

Re: bcm4301: A mac80211 driver using V3 firmware

2007-07-19 Thread Stefano Brivio
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:38:17 -0500 Larry Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4. Once bcm43xx-mac80211 gets merged to mainline, then Michael's driver should become bcm43xx and my driver gets its PCI IDs stripped to the 802.11b-only devices and once again becomes bcm4301. This name change for

Re: bcm4301: A mac80211 driver using V3 firmware

2007-07-19 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hello, Larry! First of all, many thanks for porting the v3 driver to mac80211! On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 20:38 -0500, Larry Finger wrote: 1. For more general testing, I'll distribute my driver as a patch to be applied to wireless-dev as it needs ssb, which is not yet in mainline. If we are

bcm4301: A mac80211 driver using V3 firmware

2007-07-12 Thread Larry Finger
John and Michael, I have good news regarding the driver mentioned in the subject. It is now working on my BCM4311 with performance that is nearly as good as for the softmac driver. My approach has been to take the PHY and radio parts of the softmac driver and use them with as much of the