Hi, Martin, Thanks for taking the time to answer.
I think I have already, but will again have a look at johnny. Regards. Marcio On Fri, 14 Jun 2024 at 23:31, Martin Blais <bl...@furius.ca> wrote: > I've developed Johnny for that purpose (https://github.com/edgebips/johnny), > in the context of retail trading (not pro). > It's not really in a state that's easy for others to use TBH. > In theory it could be, but if you used it you'd be 90% sure to his some > corner case that's not supported, e.g. some transaction type I've never > encountered and don't support. > > Broadly speaking, for that use case you need > - more sophisticated transaction types wit some common fields > - the volume of transactions is such you'd want this in a table format, > one line per transaction, ideally going to a database. Beancount is > designed to be user-editable and too verbose. > - you'd also want to automate everything (ingest the data from your > brokers, normalize it in the same schema, etc) with as little manual > intervention as possible. > - Beancount doesn't handle derivatives with multipliers too great right > now (futures and options), you have to multiply by hand, its symbology has > to be extended to support that (Johnny does that fine) > So Beancount is fine for investments, say ~100 equities or funds positions > with dividends and monthly transactions, but when you're talking about > 1k-100k or more trades/month - still retail level but a bit more dedicated > - Beancount isn't a great solution for that. > > > > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 9:16 AM Marcio A. Vianna F. (mvianna) < > marciovian...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Just to make it clear: I've been thinking of using Beancount for general >> personal finance (tracking expenses, earnings etc.), with investment >> portfolio lumped up as "holdings" or so. These "holdings" would be updated >> from time to time with profits/losses or profit/losses accrued. Only the >> details of the actual single trades would have to be managed in the other >> application. >> >> Marcio >> >> On Friday 14 June 2024 at 09:52:44 UTC-3 Marcio A. Vianna F. wrote: >> >>> Hi, all. >>> >>> Are you aware of accounting software targeted at a similar audience as >>> Beancount, but meant for trading taxes, tracking and accounting? In common >>> with Beancount, desirable features would be: >>> >>> * flexible (customizable) >>> * extensible >>> * python >>> * for small businesses or personal use >>> * scalable at least to a certain point >>> >>> All solutions I find on the internet are too limiting and may demand >>> worksome workarounds. >>> >>> The issue has been brought up some times on this board and it seems it >>> is now acknowledged that this kind of application isn't in the scope of >>> Beancount or its future developments (correct me if I'm wrong). I've been >>> away from Beancount for some years, so that I cannot recall exactly what >>> made Beancount a less-than-perfect fit for trading, but I think two needed >>> features would be: time of transaction, mean value of inventories, >>> inventories with negative balance (short positions). I could give up the >>> plain-text advantages for sqlite or other rdms if needed. >>> >>> Any tips in this regard? >>> >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Marcio >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Beancount" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to beancount+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beancount/71915cd3-429c-4d74-98d6-57b5586c3e08n%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beancount/71915cd3-429c-4d74-98d6-57b5586c3e08n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Beancount" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to beancount+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beancount/CAK21%2BhPLuq8SfPg3LL2Q9XpjDFzqkMj%2BpS1CiyEscnwqCnMpmA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beancount/CAK21%2BhPLuq8SfPg3LL2Q9XpjDFzqkMj%2BpS1CiyEscnwqCnMpmA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Beancount" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beancount+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beancount/CAK31wUVcvr6cst20AiLABHGbBDDoapJSZ2%3DJp9WPFsYhY65T3A%40mail.gmail.com.
