Hi Rob, I wanted to thank you for your email to the list and your struggles. I am just beginning to learn about Squeak and being an old procedural programmer (PDP-11), OOP in general is kind of backwards to my way of thinking, and so I can identify with your feeling as though you are just not online all the way. The first programming that I did that was at all object oriented was in Visual Basic many years ago, and I can remember thinking; "Ok, these buttons and windows and textboxes can react to actions, but how do you start the whole thing going?" It's kind of laughable now, but at the time I was used to: first you have the computer do one thing, then the next thing, and so on... So its like I was sitting there waiting for the program to do something and the program was sitting there waiting for me to do something.
I am hoping that as I go through the material, ideas which aren't immediately understandable will become so after getting more info. It's hard to do that, because it makes me feel uncomfortable to feel as though I'm not getting it. When I was going to school for my degree in electronics there was a lot of that, and that turned out ok. Good luck, hopefully we'll get it. :-) Steve On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 09:56 -0400, Rob Rothwell wrote: > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Herbert König <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > One version of smart paper is, I draw userinterfaces by just > placing > the elements into an empty project and place texts around them > like > the names to reference them, the message names they send an > some > general description of what they do. Did this on paper before. > > This is going to sound really lame, but do you have any screenshots > you can share? This sounds like a very useful technique, but I don't > think my brain is using Morphic that way. In fact, I don't think my > brain is using Morphic at all! > > > In one case where I did not need so much text around I > gradually > filled the sketch with life to have a prototype > > For many aspects of a development project I have several > Squeak > project with browsers open on the relevant methods and > Workspaces. And > I have sketches about the flow of some aspects of the > software. > > What are you using for your sketches? > > > For my project leading job I carry an 3.6 Squeak on a USB > stick which > I really use as a notetaker. I lead a road design software > project > where I have Squeak projects on technical, sales, customer and > competition aspects. > > What features do you use for notes? Workspaces for typing? > Connectors? More sketches? Why 3.6? Does it have features that > have been removed? > > > The last one is what I was talking about in my reply to > Brenda's post > in Squeak dev. > > Thank you for sharing. I have been trying to "study my history" > lately, and am feeling very much like there are all these capabilities > out there that I am definitely NOT taking advantage of! When I read, > for example, that "The original [Augment] system is still in use today > by Dr. Engelbart and the Bootstrap Alliance," I just have to think > that we are all suffering from not maximizing the capabilities of the > systems we already have! > > Thanks again, > > Rob > > > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list > Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners