Re: [Newbies] How do I diff two images?

2010-06-02 Thread Clinton Blackmore
Fair enough. Clinton On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: > At Wed, 2 Jun 2010 12:03:30 -0600, > Clinton Blackmore wrote: > > > > Would it be easier to bring Scratch forward to run on a newer version of > Squeak? > > Hmm, I think that would be so much more work, compared to

Re: [Newbies] How do I diff two images?

2010-06-02 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
At Wed, 2 Jun 2010 12:03:30 -0600, Clinton Blackmore wrote: > > Would it be easier to bring Scratch forward to run on a newer version of > Squeak? Hmm, I think that would be so much more work, compared to for example bringing in the InterpreterSimulator into the Scratch image. -- Yoshiki > O

Re: [Newbies] How do I diff two images?

2010-06-02 Thread Clinton Blackmore
Would it be easier to bring Scratch forward to run on a newer version of Squeak? Clinton On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: > At Fri, 28 May 2010 10:55:31 -0600, > Clinton Blackmore wrote: > > > > Very interesting. It looks like I will probably not get to try any of > thes

Re: [Newbies] How do I diff two images?

2010-06-02 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
At Fri, 28 May 2010 10:55:31 -0600, Clinton Blackmore wrote: > > Very interesting.  It looks like I will probably not get to try any of these > methods until next week, but, what sort of > adjustments do you think it would need for Scratch images? The biggest single issue is that my ImageBrows

Re: [Newbies] How do I diff two images?

2010-05-28 Thread Clinton Blackmore
Very interesting. It looks like I will probably not get to try any of these methods until next week, but, what sort of adjustments do you think it would need for Scratch images? Clinton On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: > At Fri, 21 May 2010 21:35:14 -0600, > Clinton Bla

Re: [Newbies] How do I diff two images?

2010-05-28 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
At Fri, 21 May 2010 21:35:14 -0600, Clinton Blackmore wrote: > > Greetings. > > While I've programmed for some time, I am new to Squeak.  I was wondering how > I diff or compare two images that are > largely similar (such as, say, Scratch vs Scratch For Second Life).   > > In other environments

Re: [Newbies] How do I diff two images?

2010-05-27 Thread Clinton Blackmore
Thank you! I'll have to give that a try. Clinton On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > On 27.05.2010, at 16:34, Clinton Blackmore wrote: > > I have heard of Monticello. (I may need to re-read the chapter on it in > Squeak By Example). I've used other version control syste

Re: [Newbies] How do I diff two images?

2010-05-27 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 27.05.2010, at 16:34, Clinton Blackmore wrote:I have heard of Monticello.  (I may need to re-read the chapter on it in Squeak By Example).  I've used other version control systems, and understand how to use them, but I don't know of any that let you diff source trees that aren't in the same vers

Re: [Newbies] How do I diff two images?

2010-05-27 Thread Mariano Abel Coca
Basically with monticello you can set up a unique repository and then commit there the baseline and changes from both images. Once there you can merge differences easily. Cheers, Mariano. On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Clinton Blackmore < clinton.blackm...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have heard o

Re: [Newbies] How do I diff two images?

2010-05-27 Thread Clinton Blackmore
I have heard of Monticello. (I may need to re-read the chapter on it in Squeak By Example). I've used other version control systems, and understand how to use them, but I don't know of any that let you diff source trees that aren't in the same version control system, so I have no reason to expect

Re: [Newbies] How do I diff two images?

2010-05-27 Thread Mariano Abel Coca
Sorry for the noise, I don't know if this is what you are looking for, but just because it hasn't been mentioned in this thread I have to suggest it: have you looked at Monticello and Metacello? Monticello is the similar to a cvs repository merged with aptitude. And it has it's own diffing tools t

Re: [Newbies] How do I diff two images?

2010-05-22 Thread Clinton Blackmore
I can install a library and start communicating over sockets with one line of code?! That's incredible. [Incidentally, as a system administrator, I did ask about diffing two filesystems: http://serverfault.com/questions/10424/diffing-two-filesystems. (grin)] Clinton On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 7:5

Re: [Newbies] How do I diff two images?

2010-05-22 Thread David Mitchell
People have certainly built tools that do image archeology but they have tended to be more academic than practical. Outside of Squeak, imagine writing a tool to look at two WMware VMDK files onto which two different people had installed Windows, Firefox, and various other tools. It might be theore

Re: [Newbies] How do I diff two images?

2010-05-22 Thread Clinton Blackmore
Yes, I suppose an image is a virtual machine suspended in time. I hadn't even considered comparing things other than the source code. I'd wondered about filing everything out. That sounds like the way to go. Having the two images talk to each other and run comparisons also sounds very interesti

Re: [Newbies] How do I diff two images?

2010-05-22 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Saturday, May 22, 2010 09:05:14 am Clinton Blackmore wrote: > While I've programmed for some time, I am new to Squeak. I was wondering > how I diff or compare two images that are largely similar (such as, say, > Scratch vs Scratch For Second Life). An image is not a source code but a snapshot o

Re: [Newbies] How do I diff two images?

2010-05-22 Thread Mateusz Grotek
If you want to compare source code only, you can file it out. You could also write some code in both images, and ask them to do comparisons (use sockets of fifos, or similar mechanisms for IPC). ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.

Re: [Newbies] How do I diff two images?

2010-05-22 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Saturday, May 22, 2010 09:05:14 am Clinton Blackmore wrote: > While I've programmed for some time, I am new to Squeak. I was wondering > how I diff or compare two images that are largely similar (such as, say, > Scratch vs Scratch For Second Life). An image is not a source code but a snapshot o

[Newbies] How do I diff two images?

2010-05-21 Thread Clinton Blackmore
Greetings. While I've programmed for some time, I am new to Squeak. I was wondering how I diff or compare two images that are largely similar (such as, say, Scratch vs Scratch For Second Life). In other environments, I'd run the source trees for each project/variation through a recursive diff to