RE: Regex command to remove deleted emails

I haven't had a chance to test this, but how about: use strict; use warnings; use File::Find; find(sub{unlink if /,ST$/},"/my/directory/"); -Original Message- From: news on behalf of John Schme

Re: Zip using Perl

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:37:12 -0500 "RL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to "zip" a file using perl script. I used following command:- > > system ("zip "); > > However this command fails when the filename is more than 8 characters. I really have no idea. have you tried system ("

Regex command to remove deleted emails

I'm trying to use the following to remove deleted emails (deleted emails have file names that end in ",ST"): rm -f $(find /home/vmail Maildir | grep ,ST) This works well for the most part, however some files don't get deleted, I suspect because of their length or characters in the pathname.

RE: LOST - Win32::Process

I haven't used it much myself, but have you tried Win32::Process::KillProcess? I just got that from "perldoc Win32::Process". -Original Message- From: RL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 1/28/2004 12:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc:

LOST - Win32::Process

Hi all, I am new and am lost with Win32::Process stuff. I want on perl script to start a process, then another perl script to terminate the same process. I can start a process using... --- use Win32::Process; use Win32; sub ErrorRe

Re: why "Bad file descriptor at line 94 "

On Jan 26, 2004, at 3:03 PM, mark123 wrote: [..] This script telnets into a telnet server (cisco) then telnets into other cisco router to grab there configs. I get these errors when trying to connect to certain routers (5, 11,12,13,14). If I look in my dump logs I see that the device didn't echo

Re: How to import symbols and semantics from one namespace into another

On Jan 28, 2004, at 10:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, this question has to do with importing names from one package into another. [..] outcome: This obviously won't work because 'use' expects a module name, not a package name. Same issue with 'require'. Can't locate SomePackage.p

Re: Passing several arguments

On Jan 27, 2004, at 3:26 AM, Jan Eden wrote: [..] I have a subroutine which fills into several hashes and arrays (%author_indexlines, %poem_lines, @alphabet_index etc). How can I return those variables and pass them to another subroutine? This does not work, of course [..] perldoc -q "How can I

Re: procedure entry point slcvs2ptr message

On Jan 28, 2004, at 10:01 AM, Johnson, Shaunn wrote: [..] I want to use Perl to connect to an Oracle 9i database on Windows 200x and have installed DBI v. 1.37 on my NT workstation. I am getting a message like so when I run the script: [snip] "The procedure entry point slcvs2ptr could not be locat

Re: help on regular expression

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Madhu Reddy wrote: > Hi, >I need some help on regular expression... > i have following in variable $total_count > > $total_count = "##I USBP 01 10:38:09(000) > ETRACK_TOTAL_RECS : 100" > > Here in this ETRACK_TOTAL_RECS is fixed and common for > all and rest is chan

RE: Two-liner to one-liner

Just a small correction: In scalar context it returns 1 because there is 1 element in the list. If there were more parentheses it might return a higher number. -Original Message- From: Charles K. Clarkson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 6:13 PM To: 'Jan E

RE: Two-liner to one-liner

Jan Eden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : : I tried to stuff the following two lines into one, but did : not succeed: : : my($teilnehmer) = $eingabe =~ m/(?<=Teilnehmer:\n\n)(.+)/s; : my(@teilzeilen) = split /\n/, $teilnehmer; Care to share a typical value for $eingabe with us? How about:

Re: How to import symbols and semantics from one namespace into another

On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 01:32:14PM -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, this question has to do with importing names from one package into > another. In my case, both packages reside in the same file, and I > simply want to import all the package-global symbols from the one > package into the oth

Re: Two-liner to one-liner

Jan Eden wrote: > > Hi all, Hello, > I tried to stuff the following two lines into one, but did not succeed: > > my($teilnehmer) = $eingabe =~ m/(?<=Teilnehmer:\n\n)(.+)/s; > my(@teilzeilen) = split /\n/, $teilnehmer; > > This does not work: > > my @teilnehmer = $eingabe =~ m/(?<=Teilnehmer:\

RE: Help with options

I realize there's no 'help' in this one, but maybe this will get you on your way...(it's a bit of a kluge; I had to check it twice) Here's one with GetOpt::Std : ## use Getopt::Std; my @ARGS; my %opts; eval { getopts('o:L', \%opts) or die "Usage: $0 -o [ mail || fi

Re: Subroutine interaction

Jan Eden wrote: > Hi all, > > the following structure does not work as intended: > > sub read_index { > > my $gedicht_path = shift; > my (%author_indexlines, %author_headlines, %gedicht_lines, @author_letters, > @gedicht_letters, @alphabet_index); > find (\&read_poem, $gedicht_path);

Re: [Q] How to eval an EXPR once and make it stick

Sam wrote: > > --- Rob Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sam wrote: > > > > > > But I'm not sure which is faster though. > > > > If you don't know, it doesn't matter. > > > > If your software is /too/ slow and you would die for a 10% speed increase > > then > > check out > > > > use Benchmark

Re: How to import symbols and semantics from one namespace into another

> Hi, this question has to do with importing names from one package into another. In my case, both packages reside in the same file, and I simply want to import all the package-global symbols from the one package into the other. Can anyone say how to do this? Here's a bunch of tries that didn'

Re: using Perl to auto-login to capitalone.com

> I am attempting to write a Perl script that can login to my account at capitalone.com, > grab my balance and available credit and email them to me. I did this successfully with my > online banking, but Capitalone's login is a pain in the ass to wrap my head around. It > redirects you through 3 or

rm $( locate Maildir | grep ,ST ) will not work to remove deleted emails

I have a number of Outlook XP users that don't purge their deleted emails, so I want to remove them myselve with following regex command: rm $( locate Maildir | grep ,ST ) Outut is: rm: cannot remove `/home/vmail/jam/Maildir/.Personal': No such file or directory rm: cannot remove `item

Re: How to import symbols and semantics from one namespace into another

On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 01:32:14PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, this question has to do with importing names from one package into > another. In my case, both packages reside in the same file, and I > simply want to import all the package-global symbols from the one > package into the ot

Re: change modified date?

Shaunn Johnson wrote: > > Howdy: Hello, > Is there a perl module that can change the modified > date of a file in Windows (or, Linux)? > > On my Linux box, I'm testing the 'touch -m' method, > but it isn't working very well. I have no idea > what there is for Windows. Perhaps there is a perl

Re: Zip using Perl

I downloaded zip23xN.zip and unz550xN.exe from http://ftp.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/WIN32/ "Manish Uskaikar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, I would like to "zip" a file using perl script. I used following command:- system ("zip "); However this command fails

Re: Passing several arguments

Jan Eden wrote: Hi all, I have a subroutine which fills into several hashes and arrays (%author_indexlines, %poem_lines, @alphabet_index etc). How can I return those variables and pass them to another subroutine? This does not work, of course sub read_index { blablabla return (%author_ind

Re: Placing handmade modules

Thanks Rob and drieux, you were both right. The package line read package Template; Since I noticed my error just one minute after asking for help on the list, I tried to send a followup, but - alas! - my provider's SMTP server denied connections for about two hours. Now I learned some more p

change modified date?

Howdy: Is there a perl module that can change the modified date of a file in Windows (or, Linux)? On my Linux box, I'm testing the 'touch -m' method, but it isn't working very well. I have no idea what there is for Windows. Perhaps there is a perl method instead? Thanks! -X

RE: Clearing Arrays

Colin wrote: > subscribe to. I save all my emails into a database (1,000s so far) so > I can search back if I have a problem. I did not find any reference to The link for this list's archives is http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.beginners/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For addit

DBI question

Hello, my simple question is, how can I get the seconds returned by the MySQL after some select, update or insert with DBI.pm package. Thanks - This mail is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PRO

Passing several arguments

Hi all, I have a subroutine which fills into several hashes and arrays (%author_indexlines, %poem_lines, @alphabet_index etc). How can I return those variables and pass them to another subroutine? This does not work, of course sub read_index { blablabla return (%author_indexlines, %poem

Two-liner to one-liner

Hi all, I tried to stuff the following two lines into one, but did not succeed: my($teilnehmer) = $eingabe =~ m/(?<=Teilnehmer:\n\n)(.+)/s; my(@teilzeilen) = split /\n/, $teilnehmer; This does not work: my @teilnehmer = $eingabe =~ m/(?<=Teilnehmer:\n\n)(.+)/s; This does neither: my @teilnehm

Re: help on regular expression

Hi, $total_count =~ s/.+ : (\d+)/$1/; HTH, Jan Madhu Reddy wrote: >Hi, > I need some help on regular expression... >i have following in variable $total_count > >$total_count = "##I USBP 01 10:38:09(000) > ETRACK_TOTAL_RECS : 100" > >Here in this ETRACK_TOTAL_RECS is fixed and common for

Re: capturing a webpage in a variable

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Luinrandir Hernsen wrote: > IS this how I capture a web page code to a variable? > > > #!/usr/bin/perl > > > > use LWP::UserAgent; > > > > my $req; > > my $ua = LWP::UserAgent->new; > > $req = HTTP::Request->new(GET => 'http://www.yahoo.com'); > > print $req; ## ??

Re: Clearing Arrays

Support wrote: > Hi > I do not want to continue this thread to bag other users, but I do have a > number or perl books and it did take me some time to find out how to clear > an array. From the replies I got (and I thank those who did reply) > confirmed I was using ' @array=()' correctly. In the e

RE: Automated script to connect to a web site and change the Password

Mallik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted this reply: : : : -Original Message- : : From: Mallik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : : Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 5:26 AM : : To: Perl Beginners : : Subject: Automated script to connect to a web site and change : : the Password : : : : Dear Friends, :

procedure entry point slcvs2ptr message

Howdy: Not sure if this is a duplicate message - sorry in advance if it is. I want to use Perl to connect to an Oracle 9i database on Windows 200x and have installed DBI v. 1.37 on my NT workstation. I am getting a message like so when I run the script: [snip] "The procedure entry point slcvs2

Re: [Q] How to eval an EXPR once and make it stick

Sam wrote: > > Thanks for all your responses; I learned a bit. > > 1. I wasn't clear on $_ in my email; that's being read elsewhere in program so > it's already set by the time print_lines is called. > > 2. Will you bet your life on this equivalence: "not /^\s*$/ == /\S/"? Yes I will. :-)

Re: [Q] How to eval an EXPR once and make it stick

On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 09:11:51AM -0800 Sam wrote: > 4. As for the generalized case, I learned about using refs. Anonymous subs > also work. > > my $re = sub { return /^\s*$/; }; > my $nre = sub { return not &$re; }; > my $expr = $blank ? $re : $nre; > do ... while (&$expr and not eof); >

capturing a webpage in a variable

IS this how I capture a web page code to a variable? > #!/usr/bin/perl > > use LWP::UserAgent; > > my $req; > my $ua = LWP::UserAgent->new; > $req = HTTP::Request->new(GET => 'http://www.yahoo.com'); print $req; ## ? from here I can print at the code for the web page?

Re: Subroutine interaction

Jan Eden wrote: > > Learning more and more Just as it should be :) Well done, Rob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Help with options

> Hi, > > I have a script that command options are taken and would like > to know how print out the options when the options are > missing from the command line. Or how to do a -h to print out > the options. > There are module sto help you process switches and what not. For really simple stuf

Re: [Q] How to eval an EXPR once and make it stick

--- Rob Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sam wrote: > > > > Thanks for all your responses; I learned a bit. > > Good: well done. > > > 1. I wasn't clear on $_ in my email; that's being read elsewhere in > program so > > it's already set by the time print_lines is called. > > You /mustn't/ us

RE: Automated script to connect to a web site and change the Password

Dear Friends, I need to write a Perl CGI script that connects to a website (like Yahoo) and change the Password for my user. I don't want to do it manually. It should be handled by the script. Please suggest any idea/code available. Thanks in advance, Mallik. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: Subroutine interaction

Jeff 'japhy' Pinyan wrote: >On Jan 28, Jan Eden said: > >>sub read_index { >>my $gedicht_path = shift; my (%author_indexlines, %author_headlines, >>%gedicht_lines, @author_letters, @gedicht_letters, @alphabet_index); >>find (\&read_poem, $gedicht_path); print %author_indexlines; # >>nothing is pr

Re: How to calculate elapsed time ?

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm trying to determine how long an system operation takes. Anyone know > of a simple way to do this ? > > I wanted to establish the start time. Then run the operation. Then mark > the finish time. Then substract the start time from the finis

Re: array push

Wolf Blaum wrote: > > For Quality purpouses, Rob Dixon 's mail on Tuesday 27 January 2004 00:30 may > have been monitored or recorded as: > > > The right conclusion for the wrong reasons Wolf! The spaces are the result > > of interpolating the array into a string, and the presence of a newline o

RE: Help with options

Getopt::long http://search.cpan.org/~jv/Getopt-Long-2.34/lib/Getopt/Long.pm Paul Kraus --- PEL Supply Company Network Administrator > -Original Message- > From: Thomas Browner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 27,

Automated script to connect to a web site and change the Password

Dear Friends, I need to write a Perl CGI script that connects to a website (like Yahoo) and change the Password for my user. I don't want to do it manually. It should be handled by the script. Please suggest any idea/code available. Thanks in advance, Mallik. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

How to import symbols and semantics from one namespace into another

Hi, this question has to do with importing names from one package into another. In my case, both packages reside in the same file, and I simply want to import all the package-global symbols from the one package into the other. Can anyone say how to do this? Here's a bunch of tries that didn't

Re: Subroutine interaction

Jan Eden wrote: > > the following structure does not work as intended: > > sub read_index { > > my $gedicht_path = shift; > my (%author_indexlines, %author_headlines, %gedicht_lines, @author_letters, > @gedicht_letters, @alphabet_index); > find (\&read_poem, $gedicht_path); > print

Fwd: Perl Query

(redirected to Perl Beginners by James) Begin forwarded message: From: atul ashpalia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: January 28, 2004 4:18:13 AM CST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Perl Query hi there, i am a beginner in perl and have done some basic exercises in perl covering fundamentals, references,

Re: using Perl to auto-login to capitalone.com

Kevin Old wrote: > > Have you look at WWW::Mechanize on CPAN. It seems to make navigating > sites (virtually) and using forms, etc. much easier. > > It's worth a shot. Seconded. It's definitely worthwhile for well-behaved sites, but can be tricky to debug if the site doesn't behave as you expect

Re: [Q] How to eval an EXPR once and make it stick

Sam wrote: > > Thanks for all your responses; I learned a bit. Good: well done. > 1. I wasn't clear on $_ in my email; that's being read elsewhere in program so > it's already set by the time print_lines is called. You /mustn't/ use $_ like that. It's meant to be an 'it' in places like For e

Re: using Perl to auto-login to capitalone.com

Have you look at WWW::Mechanize on CPAN. It seems to make navigating sites (virtually) and using forms, etc. much easier. It's worth a shot. HTH, Kevin On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 02:37, Andrew Gaffney wrote: > I am attempting to write a Perl script that can login to my account at > capitalone.com,

Re: function that reads line numbers?

Thanks to everyone who responded to my question. You guys really are a bunch of fast fingers out there. I got great examples no sooner than a blink of an eye! Can I learn how to code that fast? ;) I have more than enough material to work with. I'm going to run through each of my examples and see

Re: [Q] How to eval an EXPR once and make it stick

Thanks for all your responses; I learned a bit. 1. I wasn't clear on $_ in my email; that's being read elsewhere in program so it's already set by the time print_lines is called. 2. Will you bet your life on this equivalence: "not /^\s*$/ == /\S/"? I believe it's safer to negate an EXPR than

Re: [Q] How to eval an EXPR once and make it stick

John W. Krahn wrote: > > Sam wrote: > > > > # Print lines (or not) until a blank line is found (or not) > > # This function works fine. But in the spirit of learning...read on. > > > > sub print_lines_ok { > > my ($output, $blank_lines) = @_; > > if ($blank_lines) { > > do { > >

Help with options

Hi, I have a script that command options are taken and would like to know how print out the options when the options are missing from the command line. Or how to do a -h to print out the options. Thanks, Thomas Browner -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-m

Re: function that reads line numbers?

Trina Espinoza wrote: > > So this may be wishful thinking, but I would be kicking myself > later if I didn't ask. Is there a function in perl where you give > the function exact line numbers and it would only read the data > in the range of lines you gave it? You can use integer literals with th

RE: WinNT perl scripts - adding modules on all machines

> Just a question or doubt I had. Now using > activestate's activeperl if I deploy it on all > machines on my network. And I have certain scripts for > those machines. If I release a new script that depends > on a perl module not on the activeperl distribution by > default how can I distrub

RE: Automated script to connect to a web site and change the Password

> Dear Friends, > > I need to write a Perl CGI script that connects to > a website (like Yahoo) and change the Password for > my user. I don't want to do it manually. It should > be handled by the script. > I've done similar thigns using LWP::UserAgent to log in and submit forms with certain da

Re: WinNT perl scripts - adding modules on all machines

"Saadat Saeed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Just a question or doubt I had. Now using > activestate's activeperl if I deploy it on all > machines on my network. And I have certain scripts for > those machines. If I release a new script that depends > on a perl

Subroutine interaction

Hi all, the following structure does not work as intended: sub read_index { my $gedicht_path = shift; my (%author_indexlines, %author_headlines, %gedicht_lines, @author_letters, @gedicht_letters, @alphabet_index); find (\&read_poem, $gedicht_path); print %author_indexlines; # no

Re: [Q] How to eval an EXPR once and make it stick

Sam wrote: > > # Print lines (or not) until a blank line is found (or not) > # This function works fine. But in the spirit of learning...read on. > > sub print_lines_ok { > my ($output, $blank_lines) = @_; > if ($blank_lines) { > do { > print if $output; You are prin

RE: can i do it with perl ?

> I there, > Ello! > I need to write a web database application using > perl, and i need a way that when the users logs into > the system i download all the information regarding > to the user to its local computer and make all the > transaction locally. After that, when the user logs

Re: How to calculate elapsed time ?

Thanks guys. You're the Best ! I used "time" instead of "localtime" and it's exactly what I need for now. Perl is quickly becoming a very useful tool for me. Thanks also for the doc info: perldoc -f time & perldoc Benchmark - Stuart Stuart Clemons/Westford/IBM wrote on 01/27/2004 07:50:30 PM

Re: function that reads line numbers?

Trina Espinoza wrote: > > So this may be wishful thinking, but I would be kicking myself later if I didn't > ask. Is there a function in perl where you give the function exact line numbers > and it would only read the data in the range of lines you gave it? My other > alternative would be using a

Re: function that reads line numbers?

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Trina Espinoza wrote: > So this may be wishful thinking, but I would be kicking myself later if I didn't > ask. Is there a function in perl where you give > the function exact line numbers and it would only read the data in the range of > lines you gave it? My other altern

Re: help on regular expression

On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 07:49:02AM -0800, Madhu Reddy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi, >I need some help on regular expression... > i have following in variable $total_count > > $total_count = "##I USBP 01 10:38:09(000) > ETRACK_TOTAL_RECS : 100" > > Here in this ETRACK_TOTAL_RECS is fix

RE: help on regular expression

> Hi, >I need some help on regular expression... > i have following in variable $total_count > > $total_count = "##I USBP 01 10:38:09(000) > ETRACK_TOTAL_RECS : 100" > > Here in this ETRACK_TOTAL_RECS is fixed and common for > all and rest is changing... > > like following > > $total_coun

RE: Dump Excel File to Database table

This may be off the mark but I have always found it easier to save the table as a csv file and use Text::CSV to then parse that. I always prefer working with text but that's me. HTH, Paul Kraus --- PEL Supply Company Network Administrator > -Original Message- > F

Re: Top-of-the-page format

Perl wrote: > > I am printing a report and use this FORMAT function. However, I just > want it to print once, not the default of once every 60 lines. I've read > the special variable "$=" is what governs it but not matter what I put > in there, it still doesn't stop it. > > How do I disable this

Re: help on regular expression

Madhu Reddy wrote: > Hi, >I need some help on regular expression... > i have following in variable $total_count > > $total_count = "##I USBP 01 10:38:09(000) > ETRACK_TOTAL_RECS : 100" > > Here in this ETRACK_TOTAL_RECS is fixed and common for > all and rest is changing... > > like follow

RE: Automated script to connect to a web site and change the Password

Dear Friends, I need to write a Perl CGI script that connects to a website (like Yahoo) and change the Password for my user. I don't want to do it manually. It should be handled by the script. Please suggest any idea/code available. Thanks in advance, Mallik. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: How to calculate elapsed time ?

On Jan 27, 2004, at 6:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all: Howdy. I'm trying to determine how long an system operation takes. Anyone know of a simple way to do this ? You were on the right track. Try this: my $start = time; # do something to time here my $time_taken = time - $start; If

Re: function that reads line numbers?

On Jan 27, 2004, at 8:55 PM, Trina Espinoza wrote: So this may be wishful thinking, but I would be kicking myself later if I didn't ask. Is there a function in perl where you give the function exact line numbers and it would only read the data in the range of lines you gave it? My other alterna

Re: How to calculate elapsed time ?

On Jan 27, 2004, at 6:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all: Howdy. I'm trying to determine how long an system operation takes. Anyone know of a simple way to do this ? You were on the right track. Try this: my $start = time; # do something to time here my $time_taken = time - $start; If

Re: function that reads line numbers?

On Jan 27, Trina Espinoza said: >So this may be wishful thinking, but I would be kicking myself later if I >didn't ask. Is there a function in perl where you give the function exact >line numbers and it would only read the data in the range of lines you >gave it? My other alternative would be usin

Re: [Q] How to eval an EXPR once and make it stick

On Jan 27, Rob Dixon said: >Sam wrote: >> >> sub print_lines_ok { >> my ($output, $blank_lines) = @_; >> if ($blank_lines) { >> do { >> print if $output; >> $_ = <>; >> } while (/^\s*$/ and not eof); >> } else { >> do { >> pri

using Perl to auto-login to capitalone.com

I am attempting to write a Perl script that can login to my account at capitalone.com, grab my balance and available credit and email them to me. I did this successfully with my online banking, but Capitalone's login is a pain in the ass to wrap my head around. It redirects you through 3 or pages

Re: Best Encyption module for this task/goal

> Howdy list, > > I made a script that use Crypt::OpenPGP to > encrypt/decrypt some data. > > I was thinking about testing out some other Encryption > modules to see if any worked faster/ were more portable. > Since I'm not an encyption master I thoguht I'd ask for > input from any experience

Re: array push

Wolf Blaum wrote: > > For Quality purpouses, Rob Dixon 's mail on Tuesday 27 January 2004 12:42 may > have been monitored or recorded as: > > > Didn't you mean to put spaces before the last three records? This will be > > the result of > > > .. > well - in Anthonys original mail there were spaces