Perl projects for beginners

2009-09-07 Thread Gabor Szabo
Hi, in a blog post http://szabgab.com/blog/2009/09/1251862435.html I recently asked how to make a project beginner friendly. The best answer I got was to ask the beginners. Clever :-) So let me ask it on this list. As I think think the best way to learn Perl is tor practice a lot and the best pl

Re: Perl projects for beginners

2009-09-07 Thread Philip Potter
2009/9/7 Gabor Szabo : > Hi, > > in a blog post http://szabgab.com/blog/2009/09/1251862435.html > I recently asked how to make a project beginner friendly. > The best answer I got was to ask the beginners. Clever :-) > > So let me ask it on this list. > > As I think think the best way to learn Perl

Re: Perl projects for beginners

2009-09-07 Thread Matt Young
Hi Gabor. So far, in my quest to learn perl, it's been pretty easy to learn how to program basic applications, that perform simple functions using modules from CPAN. I think beginners would greatly benefit from learning how to write their OWN perl module to aid in performing a task. This would pr

Re: Perl projects for beginners

2009-09-07 Thread Raymond Wan
Hi Gabor, Gabor Szabo wrote: As I think think the best way to learn Perl is tor practice a lot and the best place to practice is an open source project I wonder how can open source project become more beginner friendly? Follow-up to Philip's message...but I didn't reply to his post since I

Fwd: Perl projects for beginners

2009-09-07 Thread Erez Schatz
Accidentally sent to Gabor, rather to the list: 2009/9/7 Gabor Szabo : > Hi, > > Many projects assume a lot of background already that beginners > might not yet have. What things would beginners need in order to > get involved in a project? I think it all boils down to clear, simple guides on the

Re: Perl projects for beginners

2009-09-07 Thread Tim Bowden
On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 18:12 +0900, Raymond Wan wrote: > Hi Gabor, > > > Gabor Szabo wrote: > > As I think think the best way to learn Perl is tor practice a lot > > and the best place to practice is an open source project I wonder > > how can open source project become more beginner friendly? >

Re: Fwd: Perl projects for beginners

2009-09-07 Thread Tim Bowden
On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 12:13 +0300, Erez Schatz wrote: > Accidentally sent to Gabor, rather to the list: > > 2009/9/7 Gabor Szabo : > > Hi, > > > > Many projects assume a lot of background already that beginners > > might not yet have. What things would beginners need in order to > > get involved i

Re: Perl projects for beginners

2009-09-07 Thread fudmer rieley
--- On Mon, 9/7/09, Gabor Szabo wrote: From: Gabor Szabo Subject: Re: Perl projects for beginners To: "fudmer rieley" Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 7:20 AM please post this to the list Gabor On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:12 PM, fudmer rieley wrote: > Besides the Instructionally designed Q and

Re: Perl projects for beginners

2009-09-07 Thread fudmer rieley
--- On Mon, 9/7/09, fudmer rieley wrote: From: fudmer rieley Subject: Re: Perl projects for beginners To: "Raymond Wan" Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 6:57 AM The need is for a problem book with real explained answers  [producing such a problem book  would be a massive undertaking].  Such

watch folder concept in Perl

2009-09-07 Thread Ganesh Babu N
Dear All, Can we develop application which will watch a specific folder and when any files comes into the folder then some action takes place in Perl. Similar to an windows service. Is it possible in Perl. Regards, Ganesh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional

Re: watch folder concept in Perl

2009-09-07 Thread Peter Scott
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:58:35 +0530, Ganesh Babu N wrote: > Can we develop application which will watch a specific folder and when > any files comes into the folder then some action takes place in Perl. > > Similar to an windows service. Is it possible in Perl. Not only possible, it's been done be

Re: Perl projects for beginners

2009-09-07 Thread fudmer rieley
--- On Mon, 9/7/09, fudmer rieley wrote: From: fudmer rieley Subject: Re: Perl projects for beginners To: beginners@perl.org Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 7:42 AM --- On Mon, 9/7/09, fudmer rieley wrote: From: fudmer rieley Subject: Re: Perl projects for beginners To: "Raymond Wan" D

Re: Perl projects for beginners

2009-09-07 Thread Goke Aruna
Lovely discussion, I suggest a newbie should flag himself as such and I am a completely newbie and am ready to work with anyone on a new project. I guess looking at an application written in another language and converting it to perl version of it worked for me. begginers need well experienced p

Re: Perl projects for beginners

2009-09-07 Thread Shawn H Corey
fudmer rieley wrote: Teaching like this needs to become open source and be available for no charge and it needs to be created by those who are still learning. The knowledge involved in Instructional design is a Phd in and of its self. Perhaps you should start a FLOSS Manual,

Re: watch folder concept in Perl

2009-09-07 Thread Jenda Krynicky
Date sent: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 17:58:35 +0530 Subject:watch folder concept in Perl From: Ganesh Babu N To: Perl > Dear All, > > Can we develop application which will watch a specific folder and when > any files comes into the folder

Re: Perl projects for beginners

2009-09-07 Thread Dr.Ruud
Gabor Szabo wrote: in a blog post http://szabgab.com/blog/2009/09/1251862435.html I recently asked how to make a project beginner friendly. The best answer I got was to ask the beginners. Clever :-) So let me ask it on this list. As I think think the best way to learn Perl is tor practice a lo

Regexps handle only the first number

2009-09-07 Thread Mishustin Alexey
Hello, Why do these regexps handle only the first number? $ cat ./test.pl #!/usr/bin/perl use strict; use warnings; my $raised_num = 'Tab_10' =~ /^Tab_(.*)$/; print $raised_num."\n"; $raised_num = 'Tab_11' =~ /^Tab_([0-9]+)$/; print $raised_num."\n"; $raised_num = 'Tab_12' =~ /^Tab_([0-9][0-

Re: Regexps handle only the first number

2009-09-07 Thread Mishustin Alexey
В Пнд, 07/09/2009 в 14:47 -0400, Uri Guttman пишет: > > "MA" == Mishustin Alexey writes: > > MA> Why do these regexps handle only the first number? > > > MA> my $raised_num = 'Tab_10' =~ /^Tab_(.*)$/; > MA> print $raised_num."\n"; > > MA> $raised_num = 'Tab_11' =~ /^Tab_([0-9]+)$/;

Re: Regexps handle only the first number

2009-09-07 Thread Mishustin Alexey
В Пнд, 07/09/2009 в 23:01 +0400, Mishustin Alexey пишет: > I give up! > > What's the mystery? Aaaa, ($raised_num) = 'Tab_22' =~ /^Tab_(.*)$/; print $raised_num."\n"; ($raised_num) = 'Tab_23' =~ /^Tab_([0-9]+)$/; print $raised_num."\n"; ($raised_num) = 'Tab_24' =~ /^Tab_([0-9][0-9])$/; print $

Re: Regexps handle only the first number

2009-09-07 Thread Uri Guttman
> "MA" == Mishustin Alexey writes: MA> Why do these regexps handle only the first number? MA> my $raised_num = 'Tab_10' =~ /^Tab_(.*)$/; MA> print $raised_num."\n"; MA> $raised_num = 'Tab_11' =~ /^Tab_([0-9]+)$/; MA> print $raised_num."\n"; MA> $raised_num = 'Tab_12' =~ /^Tab_

Re: Regexps handle only the first number

2009-09-07 Thread Shawn H Corey
Mishustin Alexey wrote: Aaaa, ($raised_num) = 'Tab_22' =~ /^Tab_(.*)$/; print $raised_num."\n"; Not quite right. Try: ( $raised_num = 'Tab_22' ) =~ /^Tab_(.*)$/; -- Just my 0.0002 million dollars worth, Shawn Programming is as much about organization and communication as it is about

Re: Regexps handle only the first number

2009-09-07 Thread Uri Guttman
> "MA" == Mishustin Alexey writes: MA> В Пнд, 07/09/2009 в 23:01 +0400, Mishustin Alexey пишет: >> I give up! >> >> What's the mystery? MA> Aaaa, MA> ($raised_num) = 'Tab_22' =~ /^Tab_(.*)$/; MA> print $raised_num."\n"; MA> ($raised_num) = 'Tab_23' =~ /^Tab_([0-9]+)$/; M

Re: Regexps handle only the first number

2009-09-07 Thread Uri Guttman
> "SHC" == Shawn H Corey writes: SHC> Mishustin Alexey wrote: >> Aaaa, >> >> ($raised_num) = 'Tab_22' =~ /^Tab_(.*)$/; >> print $raised_num."\n"; SHC> Not quite right. Try: SHC> ( $raised_num = 'Tab_22' ) =~ /^Tab_(.*)$/; that does nither more than assign 'Tab_22' to the var

Re: Regexps handle only the first number

2009-09-07 Thread Mishustin Alexey
В Пнд, 07/09/2009 в 15:12 -0400, Uri Guttman пишет: > see? wasn't it more fun and educational to discover the answer without > being given it directly? :) Sure! :) -- Regards, Alex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.o

Re: Regexps handle only the first number

2009-09-07 Thread Mishustin Alexey
В Пнд, 07/09/2009 в 15:09 -0400, Shawn H Corey пишет: > > ($raised_num) = 'Tab_22' =~ /^Tab_(.*)$/; > > print $raised_num."\n"; > > Not quite right. Try: > ( $raised_num = 'Tab_22' ) =~ /^Tab_(.*)$/; It's not what I need: $ cat ./test.pl #!/usr/bin/perl use strict; use warnings; my $raised_

Re: Regexps handle only the first number

2009-09-07 Thread Shawn H Corey
Mishustin Alexey wrote: It's not what I need: Oops, you're right. I should pay attention to what I read. -- Just my 0.0002 million dollars worth, Shawn Programming is as much about organization and communication as it is about coding. I like Perl; it's the only language where you can

Re: Perl projects for beginners

2009-09-07 Thread Raymond Wan
Hi Tim, Tim Bowden wrote: I think some (of course, not all) universities would teach a language or programming first by getting students to work alone. And then a year or two later, put them into groups and then that's when the teachers go nuts. :-) I wonder if it's not time well spent t

Re: Perl projects for beginners

2009-09-07 Thread Raymond Wan
Hi Fudmer, I didn't think my comments would have piqued your interest so much. :-) Well, we're off-topic from Perl, but let me add just the following: fudmer rieley wrote: The need is for a problem book with real explained answers [producing such a problem book would be a massive underta

Re: Regexps handle only the first number

2009-09-07 Thread Tim Bowden
On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 15:12 -0400, Uri Guttman wrote: > > "MA" == Mishustin Alexey writes: > > MA> В Пнд, 07/09/2009 в 23:01 +0400, Mishustin Alexey пишет: > >> I give up! > >> > >> What's the mystery? > > MA> Aaaa, > > MA> ($raised_num) = 'Tab_22' =~ /^Tab_(.*)$/; > MA> prin

beginner projects

2009-09-07 Thread Uri Guttman
hi all, i saw the recent thread on beginner projects and thought i would toss in some ideas. i have many perl modules in various stages and they have many projects that need help. these projects vary in skill levels from very simple to fairly high level stuff. i have had many newbies offer to hel

Re: beginner projects

2009-09-07 Thread Tim Bowden
On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 01:01 -0400, Uri Guttman wrote: > hi all, > > i saw the recent thread on beginner projects and thought i would toss in > some ideas. i have many perl modules in various stages and they have > many projects that need help. these projects vary in skill levels from > very simple

Re: Perl projects for beginners

2009-09-07 Thread Gabor Szabo
Thank you, all of you for your input! I think you made very interesting and valuable points, many of which I have not thought earlier. Actually I was hoping to get the responses of beginners to understand their POV but the input of the others was also interesting. My objectives are two-fold. 1) u