Re: obfuscating code

2013-02-13 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: "Bob McConnell" People have been selling both Open Source and Free Software for years. Both IBM and RedHat are doing very well at it. But they don't always require cash or monetary profit as their selling price. You might also want to consider this article about the open source economic

Re: Fwd: Question regarding while loops for reading files

2013-02-13 Thread John W. Krahn
Tiago Hori wrote: Hey Guys, Hello, I am still at the same place. I am writing these little pieces of code to try to learn the language better, so any advice would be useful. I am again parsing through tab delimited files and now trying to find fish from on id (in these case families AS5 and

Re: Question regarding while loops for reading files

2013-02-13 Thread Jim Gibson
On Feb 13, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Tiago Hori wrote: > Hey Guys, > > I am still at the same place. I am writing these little pieces of code to > try to learn the language better, so any advice would be useful. I am again > parsing through tab delimited files and now trying to find fish from on id > (i

Fwd: Question regarding while loops for reading files

2013-02-13 Thread Tiago Hori
Hey Guys, I am still at the same place. I am writing these little pieces of code to try to learn the language better, so any advice would be useful. I am again parsing through tab delimited files and now trying to find fish from on id (in these case families AS5 and AS9), retrieve the weights and

Re: obfuscating code

2013-02-13 Thread Andy Bach
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Does Perl have the equivalent of Python bytecode files, What about, say, Acme::Bleach http://search.cpan.org/~dconway/Acme-Bleach-1.150/lib/Acme/Bleach.pm "The first time you run a program under use Acme::Bleach, the module removes all t

Re: obfuscating code

2013-02-13 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 03:18:51PM -0800, John SJ Anderson wrote: > > On Feb 12, 2013, at 3:05 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote: > > > Does Perl have the equivalent of Python bytecode files, i.e. pyc, > > that are obfuscated? If not, the OP's options may be limited. > > No such critter in Perl. Whilst t

Re: obfuscating code

2013-02-13 Thread Rob Dixon
On 12/02/2013 22:50, David Crouse wrote: Seriously, I took it as just funny... get off your soapbox. I'm fairly sure that the comment was just in good fun. As a systems admin, i've had to "decipher" my share of perl, and while it "can" be written great, it "can" also be written poorly. David,

Re: obfuscating code

2013-02-13 Thread David Crouse
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:11 PM, John SJ Anderson wrote: > > On Feb 12, 2013, at 2:50 PM, David Crouse wrote: > >> Seriously, I took it as just funny... get off your soapbox. >> I'm fairly sure that the comment was just in good fun. > > I'm happy you were amused. I wasn't, and I imagine anybody t

Re: obfuscating code

2013-02-13 Thread Rob Coops
Are we really spiraling into a discussion on the merits of open versus closed source? Perl is a scripting language, it was create by a linguist which it is why it allows for so many different ways to get the code to do the same thing. It is like a language very flexible in many ways. Obfuscating c

RE: obfuscating code

2013-02-13 Thread Bob McConnell
People have been selling both Open Source and Free Software for years. Both IBM and RedHat are doing very well at it. But they don't always require cash or monetary profit as their selling price. You might also want to consider this article about the open source economic model.

Re: obfuscating code

2013-02-13 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: "John SJ Anderson" On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:39 AM, jbiskofski wrote: I understand that obfuscating code is not a real detriment to a seriously motivated knowledgeable hacker. Yet I still think some security is preferable to no security at all. Also I wish this problem could be attacke

Re: obfuscating code

2013-02-13 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: "Rob Coops" Hi Bob, The problem with obfuscation is that if does not work. No mater how far you go (all database tables are called T with every column being C) all variables being single letter things like $a and @a and %b one that wants to will always be able to read it. The only thin

Re: obfuscating code

2013-02-13 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: "Bob McConnell" You cannot obfuscate the input to an interpreter. It has to be in a format that the interpreter will recognize, which necessarily means that people can also read it. If you really need to hide your source code, you have to switch to a compiled language with an actively o

Re: obfuscating code

2013-02-13 Thread Tiago Hori
> Yep. The problem is that there are more people living in those countries > than on rich countries. Not everyone lives in USA. :-) > And the culture cannot be changed by a few software developers that try to > earn for living. > Agreed. I think in there lies the biggest limitation. My point was,

Re: obfuscating code

2013-02-13 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: "Tiago Hori" > I despise the argument that some places are lawless and therefore you need > encryption and DRM. Those places you are probably thinking of > are the one more in need of free culture. Poor third world countries. Yep. The problem is that there are more people living in thos

Re: obfuscating code

2013-02-13 Thread John W. Krahn
Kevin Walzer wrote: I'm an experienced developer in several other languages (Python, Tcl, AppleScript, JavaScript, C/Objective C), so I'm quite familiar with structuring a program--but as I work on learning Perl, I find it somewhat obscure, if not downright obfuscated. None of the other language

Re: obfuscating code

2013-02-13 Thread Tiago Hori
Read Stalmmans free as in freedom on why software should always be free, not as in Free Beer but as in freedom. The GPL hás ira viral nature for a purpose. The body of work in which you and I really to write software solutions is not based on the idea of one man, but in the collective work and e

Re: obfuscating code

2013-02-13 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: "Shlomi Fish" Hi all, On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 09:01:27 -0800 (PST) Rajeev Prasad wrote: > freinds, > > what is the advice just for obfuscating code? platform is solaris. > > ty. thanks all for the great responses. Here is something I have written about it in the context of using Python b