Need more checkpoints?
Could those of you encountering the Windows db malformed issue tell me
what Windows version you're using?
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I will point out there are some strange file names in 8.5 format in the
Cache
That's interesting indeed. Jim - do you see the same in your non-working
version? But different in the working version?
This has been pointed out before in this thread, but I wonder if it is
significant?
I'm
At home: Windows 7 Home Premium
At work: Windows 7 Enterprise
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I still didn't read any reason why WAL needs to be in 7.6.1 ?
Because it's supposed to fix the database locked issues we've seen in
some cases.
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I've been playing with the Windows build of Version: 7.6.1 - r33044. I
immediately ran into the corrupted database trap. I can get myself into
a runnable state by going back to r33011, running a scan, and then
upgrading to the latest build. If I stop SBS and clear the Cache, I get
stuck
mherger;649125 Wrote:
I've been playing with the Windows build of Version: 7.6.1 - r33044.
I
immediately ran into the corrupted database trap. I can get myself
into
a runnable state by going back to r33011, running a scan, and then
upgrading to the latest build. If I stop SBS and clear
Are we sure these aren't caused by something triggering a rescan while
another rescan is in progress ?
That's what the change should allow to do. If it doesn't then we have to
fix it.
I just tried to do the following in r33019 (before WAL):
1. Shutdown SBS and clear Cache folder
2. Start
mherger;649121 Wrote:
At home: Windows 7 Home Premium
At work: Windows 7 Enterprise
32 or 64 bits?
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It's really only the Symbian and Blackberry users that have any numbers
that have been left behind.
There are so many Smartphone OS! I use BADA from Samsung and there
isnĀ“t a native app for the squeezebox. I NEED a handheld skin!
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Is there something particular going wrong under Windows?
Yes, the corrupted database problem is only on Windows.
It might be related to long file names and how sqlite and/or perl deal
with them in this case. I modified the code to use short names instead of
what we're using now, and the
Windows Server 2003 SP2, 32-bit.
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I'm using iTunes and Music IP integration, and so have no music folder
set.
That's a different issue, not related to WAL or SQLite:
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17358
Unfortunately there's no easy fix for this issue.
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mherger;649119 Wrote:
I will point out there are some strange file names in 8.5 format in
the
Cache
That's interesting indeed. Jim - do you see the same in your
non-working
version? But different in the working version?
Yes, I've said it a couple of times in this thread. There
No. There are only two Smartphone OSs. Plus some wannabes and some
legacy systems that will go away anyway.
Although you have a point.
Back when I did the iPeng skin it wasn't possible to do a good
smartphone UI using HTML and JavaScript because the browsers were not
up to it, I wonder whether
mherger;649131 Wrote:
I just tried to do the following in r33019 (before WAL):
1. Shutdown SBS and clear Cache folder
2. Start SBS and let it initiate a rescan
3. In the web interface try to Browse by Music Folder
Please file a bug report and make sure Andy is CCed to it (or
Couldn't the Logitech App's HTML/JS be added to the server as a skin,
too?
I think this could work with a few changes (there's some native code
involved in server detection - which needed to be disabled for this case).
The bigger issue I'm seeing is whether there are any browsers which are
WebOS comes to mind.
RIM also uses webkit in the new devices, don't they?
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Interesting... I finally got a full rescan with SQLite comparable to the
MySQL performance in 7.6.1. A little faster, actually. I got it by
stopping the server and running a VACUUM operation on all three of the
databases.
Discovering files/directories: D:\slim\65\music (1 of 1) Complete
Interesting... I finally got a full rescan with SQLite comparable to the
MySQL performance in 7.6.1. A little faster, actually. I got it by
stopping the server and running a VACUUM operation on all three of the
databases.
Jim - did you have time to test the file name change I proposed?
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bete-tester as such, though I have been using/testing the 7.6.1 beta
builds. However, in view of the discussion about 33044 I thought this
might be useful.
I'm running Windows 7 64 bit.
I was using 33011 but I then
JohnB;649189 Wrote:
Firstly - I apologise for posting here as I'm neither a developer nor a
bete-tester as such, though I have been using/testing the 7.6.1 beta
builds. However, in view of the discussion about 33044 I thought this
might be useful.
I'm running Windows 7 64 bit.
I was
Thanks garym.
I was really hoping that my experience, and the logs, might assist
others in resolving the problem that JJZolx and others have described
(i.e. that 33044 is fine when there is an existing database but it has
show stopping problems when the cache is cleared or when it is a new
FYI... I've been getting some good results using Whitebear Media Server
with my SBS server. I posted some pictures in the Whitebear thread
where you can see how the Revue interface looks and functions with
Whitebear. See posts 96-98
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48521
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Andy/Michael, how is the cache handled during upgrades?
Could the above indicate that WAL might not be used be unless you
manually delete the Cache directory ?
See my other posting re. 8.3 vs. long filenames: scanner and server aren't
accessing the same logs, due to some oddity in the file
mherger;649115 Wrote:
Could those of you encountering the Windows db malformed issue tell
me
what Windows version you're using?
Windows Home Server
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mherger;649207 Wrote:
Andy/Michael, how is the cache handled during upgrades?
Could the above indicate that WAL might not be used be unless you
manually delete the Cache directory ?
See my other posting re. 8.3 vs. long filenames: scanner and server
aren't
accessing the same logs,
On Aug 12, 2011, at 10:42 AM, dsdreamer wrote:
mherger;649207 Wrote:
Andy/Michael, how is the cache handled during upgrades?
Could the above indicate that WAL might not be used be unless you
manually delete the Cache directory ?
See my other posting re. 8.3 vs. long filenames:
After getting the malformed database with 33044, I installed 33011 and
let it scan last night, which was successful. This morning I installed
33048 and tried to do a new and changed scan. It usually takes 10-20
minutes, but was still going after 45 minutes and appeared to be stuck,
so I aborted
I kept rescanning until no more files were deleted (as shown in the
logs).
Code:
Library Statistics
Total Tracks: 183,488
Total Albums: 17,087
Total Artists: 9,031
Total Genres: 454
Total Playing Time: 15130:58:08
Music Scan Details
Discovering
We think the bug on Windows with filenames has been fixed. Please give
r33068 a test when it shows up on the nightly download page in a few
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Ah, you've renamed the databases to
library.db
persist.db
artwork.db
Looks like it fixes the problem for me. :-)
How is this going to affect our friends developing third party
plugins?
One thing that I see on a server where I did _not_ clear the cache is
that there are
The shm/wal files don't stay around unless you've force-killed the
server or it crashed. You can just delete them.
3rd party plugins should never care what the database filenames are.
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pippin;649154 Wrote:
WebOS comes to mind.
RIM also uses webkit in the new devices, don't they?
Microsoft probably not.
That about sums it up perfectly I think (though I don't pay attention
enough to M$'s mobile OS to know whether it has a webkit browser or
not). I've even heard RIMs browser
andyg;649260 Wrote:
The shm/wal files don't stay around unless you've force-killed the
server or it crashed. You can just delete them.
Interesting. The files are never removed on my server when SBS is shut
down. I guess that means the way I run SBS as a service using
srvany.exe, which runs
On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:31 PM, JJZolx wrote:
andyg;649260 Wrote:
The shm/wal files don't stay around unless you've force-killed the
server or it crashed. You can just delete them.
Interesting. The files are never removed on my server when SBS is shut
down. I guess that means the way I
Andy, r33068 installed and worked sweet as pie with my Sheevaplug.
Many thanks to you and to Michael for all the work you've been doing to
get 7.6.1 off the blocks, and for the good humour/wit you both
unfailingly show. It's a pleasure to be part of the Squeeze family.
regards,
kesey
andyg;649277 Wrote:
On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:31 PM, JJZolx wrote:
andyg;649260 Wrote:
The shm/wal files don't stay around unless you've force-killed the
server or it crashed. You can just delete them.
Interesting. The files are never removed on my server when SBS is
shut
down. I
pallfreeman;649071 Wrote:
After moving a bunch of albums from one directory to another, I did full
rescans. There was a bug in my script and I needed to move a small
number elsewhere, so I did a new/changed scan. 33001 was fine. 33044
not so fine. Repeated rescans:
Removing deleted files:
verypsb;649283 Wrote:
Has anyone investigated ( fixed) this issue? I've seen several reports
that deleting/renaming files causes issues... (Not tested it myself)
I'll test it.
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And we are back running again with 33068.
Clear cache/malformed db issue is gone
Still 50% slower than before WAL, but also stil much faster than 7.5
Library Statistics
Total Tracks: 9,018
Total Albums: 813
Total Artists: 388
Total Genres: 52
Total Playing Time: 679:04:10
Music Scan
pallfreeman;649071 Wrote:
After moving a bunch of albums from one directory to another, I did full
rescans. There was a bug in my script and I needed to move a small
number elsewhere, so I did a new/changed scan. 33001 was fine. 33044
not so fine. Repeated rescans:
Removing deleted files:
I see this too since a few days. I tried to understand the start-up
script and think that this portion doesn't work any-more as intended:
PID=$(pgrep slimserver.pl)
doesn't return the PID any-more, probably because the sbs process now
shows up as 'perl' and not 'slimserver.pl' in top as it
Uninstalled 33068 completely and did clean install of 33068 - worked
fine.
On my system (W7 64bit) the only curious thing is the difference in
statistics, between 33011 and 33068
33011:
Total Tracks: 21,813
Total Albums: 3,765
Total Artists: 1,549
Total Genres: 46
Total Playing Time: 2734:00:20
I believe this is due to changing the shebang line, try changing the
first line of slimserver.pl back to:
Code:
#!/usr/bin/perl
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As has already been confirmed, the 33068 build is working well under
Windows 7, even if the Cache is cleared before a new scan.
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Trying to help with testing, I just installed r33068 on a virtual
machine that had no SBS before (running Win7 Enterprise as the guest
os). The initial scan succeeded and reports the same number of tracks
as my SBS 7.5.4 on the host PC. (The music folder on the host was
mounted to a drive in the
JJZolx;649329 Wrote:
Yes, I've just tested this and can confirm that it is broken. Only 1/2
of the tracks that it reports being removed are actually removed during
each new changed scan.
Bug filed:
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17438
And is it still really slow? (when
reinholdk;649355 Wrote:
The number of albums are different, though. Don't know whether this is
expected due to the modified scanner process.
You should have the same number of albums. Remember that the library
settings, particularly whether or not you group multi-disc albums, can
affect the
JohnB;649339On my system (W7 64bit) the only curious thing is the difference in
statistics, between 33011 and 33068[/QUOTE Wrote:
Apologies - I forgot to set up the Guess Tags again. I'll rescan.
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Performance with SQLite under 7.6.1 is now excellent. Very close to what
it was before the WAL changes. A full scan of my library is down to
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JJZolx;649360 Wrote:
You should have the same number of albums. Remember that the library
settings, particularly whether or not you group multi-disc albums, can
affect the count.
You're right, this setting was different, because still at the default
value in the VM. The new scan now has
Apologies for saying there was a difference in library statistics in
post #151.
This was purely because I had forgotten to redefine the Guess Tags
after a complete re-install. (I've amended the post to make that
clear.)
33068 seems to work fine.
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In the Web UI, within My Music I have noticed that I now get UPNP devices
listed at the top of the menu. Is this the correct default place for them to
appear? I'd expect them nearer the bottom of the list (as they may come and
go, depending on what other software apps are running on the
Performance with SQLite under 7.6.1 is now excellent. Very close to what
it was before the WAL changes. A full scan of my library is down to
12:30.
I tried switching to MySQL, which initially seems really fast too, but the
further through the scan the slower it got. It was crawling - maxing out
I grabbed latest SVN version, switched prefs back to SQLite, deleted my cache
DBs, and rescanned.
SBS 7.6.1 SQLite scan still takes longer than 7.5.6 for me (by a few minutes).
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I grabbed latest SVN version, switched prefs back to SQLite, deleted my cache
DBs, and rescanned.
Scan finished, apparently successfully, but the Web UI reports 0 albums with 0
songs by 0 artists.. I can still browse artists and the list looks okay, but
it's really slow.
Philip Meyer;649385 Wrote:
Browsing Artists seems very slow.
Navigating in Web UI to the first page of Browse Artists, takes about
45 secs.
That's the giant SBS brain fart that most people see with 7.6. I only
see it once each time the server starts, although it's less than 15-20
seconds on
If I've understood correctly the MusicIP and iTunes integrations
currently checks the timestamp of the iTunes and MusicIp libraries and
trigger a rescan if they have changed.
Is there any risk that such rescan will occur at the same time as a
full rescan is in progress ?
If so, has anyone tried
I agree, they should be sorted somewhere below the standard browse items
or even in a separate section for UPnP/DLNA servers.
It's probably the same bug as you saw earlier where the MusicIP Mood
Mix menu was sorted wrong, I suspect it has to be solved the same way
as in MusicIP plugin where
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