I'm trying to update my SS7 version of the Sirius plugin to work with
the new skin. I'm a learn by example guy and can't seem to find the
HTML pages that the included plugins are using for the new skin. Where
can I look?
Slim/Plugin/Whatever/HTML - but most of them are based on the
And I can't get MusicInfoSCR to work, is this not compatible yet?
I do have a working copy, but I haven't it uploaded to my site yet. Will do
soon.
Did you grab a recent download from the site? This plugin is heavy
on settings, thus probably a lot of work for converting to the new
settings
Is this an appropriate place to mention things that have recently broken
with the Classic skin?
No, please open a new thread. Thanks for asking :-).
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(Firefox makes XmlHttpRequest HTTP requests when I click them, but
nothing changes visibly in the browser window.
Could you please install Firebug and see, whether it's encountering JS
problems? And why not update to FF2, just to make sure?... I've never tested
with FF1.5
I also wish
Sorry for the dense question, but where do you install plugins in SS7?
On Debian please give /usr/share/perl5/Slim/Plugin a try...
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The ' problem has now been fixed. I haven't tested it for a couple of
days so not sure the exact build which corrected the problem.
Great, thanks! It should be in 09/14 nightly and later.
When I started softsqueeze then tried to play a song using the latest
skin the song would always play on
I'm not sure what problem MikeFish is referring to, but at SVN 13019,
the Firefox setup wizard problem remains.
Peter - I finally downloaded Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, run it - and can't see a problem
with the latest SlimServer wizard. In fact I tested with an even older FF 1.0.x
(as installed on
The web interface for XMLBrowser is still missing some features, so
yeah it's a known issue.
The web interface for Rhapsody in general or the new skin's version of
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Hi Erland
I just tried the latest version of the new skin and due to the changed
font sized I no longer feel that the screen usage is a problem.
Hey, there's a lot more been done to achieve this :-). But I'm glad you like it.
1.
When I enter the Years menu and have albums with album art and
The clickable area on the down arrows beside for example My Music is
pretty small.
Oh, now I get it :-). You meant the expand triangle? I'll see what I can do.
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No drag and drop?
Later in 7.x, but not in 7.0. The fact that the arrows are missing is due to my
hope to have d'n'd working in time :-/. But if you can get it working, I'll be
happy to drop the buttons :-)
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That was my experience with what is now Classic on 6.x. I only
checkout'ed the SVN trunk a couple of days ago, so that is the extent
of my experience.
You'd better svn up daily :-).
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Thanks, Michael. Please see my comments #170 and #172. I do have a
number of extensions installed, but the problem occurs even with those
(supposedly) disabled.
I think I just encountered it for the very first time myself (on
FF2/Windows for what it matters). I fear I broke something
I just kicked the tires on playlist reordering through drag 'n drop.
Double Dang! Michael: youbedaman!
My thanks go over to Saki in the ExtJS forums
(http://extjs.com/forum/member.php?u=2178) who published a d'n'd tutorial only
a week ago
The slowness was all the time, until I reloaded the page (similar to
your observation).
I'll investigate this with the ExtJS developpers. But I still don't like
the idea of reloading the whole page once every 30-60 minutes. It's kind
of a clunky solution.
I must say the playlist drag and
MH: a change you've made in the past 24 hours has disabled the artwork
thumbnails in the left-hand browse pane for me on both IE7 and FF
2.0.0.7. Perhaps svn 13102?
Thanks for the heads up! I didn't notice as it did work when manually
selecting from the drop down. I've checked in a fix -
Oops. Sorry. Make that can't see the drop down on the New Music
page. Seems fine everywhere else.
Hmm... I think some of the other logic is broken, too... :-/ Tomorrow...
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Oops. Sorry. Make that can't see the drop down on the New Music
page. Seems fine everywhere else.
Gave it another try... should now really work... Good night!
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Michael, I'm afraid I still have the problem with SVN 13129.
Aarg... could you please send a screenshot or attach it to the bug report
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Yes, you've got it! At 13138, the wizard's working fine with all my
regular extensions enabled, etc. Cross that one off your list. :-)
At last! Thanks for the confirmation.
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The new default looks like it's going in the right direction, but I
really don't like the cover artwork against every track in the Player
window. I know you can turn it off, but then you don't get any cover
artwork in the Player window at all.
Hmm? You can turn artwork off for the playlist,
But when i try to build the modules i get:
On Windows don't even try to build these modules. Launch ppm and install
them interactively. And make sure you're not trying to run slimserver
using the cygwin perl - this is known not to work.
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A couple of suggestions for the new skin:
What browser are you using? The title shouldn't wrap... As the time will move
down to the progress bar, there will be some more space left for the title, so
I can have it wrap over two lines.
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Thanks, that helps! But now when I try to get to the settings page via
Server Settings plugins, I get this 404 message:
There's sometimes a problem with the plugin loading. Shut down SlimServer,
remove the plugin-data.yaml file from the SlimServer cache folder
(/var/cache/slimserver? I'm not
you use another skin or the remote, for now.
Seems kinda basic for the default skin.
He said for now. The new skin is work in progress. And these buttons simply
haven't been implemented yet as I don't have the artwork. I'll do it today
anyway - without the corresponding buttons. Just to get
Thanks, Michael. Tried that but I still get the same 404 error. Any
other tips? fwiw, this is running the .deb version of ss7.0 13131 and
MusicInfoScreen 3.99.
I'm not familiar with the way .deb is installing. Do you have any other
3rd party plugins which do work? Where are their file
2. Resizing the screen on the setup wizard causes the player panel on the
left (that shouldn't be there during initial setup, I guess) to be equally
distributed horizontally, so the wizard panel can become a little small.
Then, after setup is complete, you get two now playing panels!
I'd
open a long list of tracks, which was not all songs. I couldn't figure out
how to get rid of the popup, as the close button was off the right hand side,
and the horizontal scrollbar was off the bottom of the screen!
If this is an issue with the Fishbone skin, then I'd recommend starting a
this folder is not created by default in my version, and I think it
should be - even if empty. Even better, how about create it with a
little README inside?
Thanks for the pointer - I'll take care of the path creation. What would you
expect to find in the readme file?
Michael
I usually use FF2, but in this instance I was using IE7. I'll try again with
FF2 when I'm back at the machine.
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+, 2GB.
While I know there's some room for performance improvement, this shouldn't be
an issue on that kind of machine... not even with IE.
Michael
However, the art is not applicable and in my test case here,
isn't even a valid return due to unknown column errors.
I'm sorry, I don't understand. It's falling back to default, as if there wasn't
artwork for an album. Isn't this correct behaviour?
Michael
1) problems with the current player - selecting a player doesn't seem
to always stick. Reloading the brower will often switch to a different
player from the one I previously selected.
I tested with FF2, Opera, IE, Safari and wasn't able to reproduce. I have two
players, select one of them,
It seems there are 2 things going on. the order changes, and when it
slips players it is always to the first. Make sure you select the
second player and see what happens.
I'll give it another try. Although I've been playing with both of my
players.
firebug, but sadly on OSX 10.4, firebug
I'm seeing the same things in Firefox 2.0.0.7 on XP Pro.
Ok, we seem to have one reliable data point: Firefox. Is there anything
else? James mentioned the window not being maximized - can you confirm
this? Do you see this on any page or only with some albums? Could someone
give me access
Let's try to get on topic again...
Are the the version 7 developers interested in feedback as to how the
various skins render on Safari on the iPod Touch?
Sure we are. Although I don't have a device to test with, and imho neither
does Ben.
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when did the progress bar appear?
Earlier this week, the graphical version was checked in yesterday.
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I'm happy to announce that SlimServer has been renamed to SqueezeCenter. This
does reflect our strategy to group future product development around the
Squeeze* family of products, based on the open source SqueezeCenter software
solution.
The patch I checked in earlier today replaced the
It would have been fun if there had been a poll on the forums for this;
but then the forums aren't as qualified as a marketing department.
Fun, yes, but probably not a good idea. Product names are about registering
them, too. If you put them in the public, some smart guy will register them
Yes, that's one thing I really took care of. All cover jpg's are exactly
300x300 resp. 100x100 pixels.
Ok, still no hint :-/.
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Please don't disclose our full list of current development. Where the heck
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Neither of those names appears on either of the cameras, so try to
figure out which driver you need to download...
One nice thing about the Squeeze* family of products is compatibility. No
need for separate drivers. Just install SqueezeCenter, and your five year
old SliMP3 (SqueezeBox
r13324. Still seeing some pages load with the overlapped artwork, but
here's something I just noticed: If I move the mouse into the pane and
right-click, as soon as the context menu appears, the page layout
corrects itself.
It _corrects_ itself? That's interesting. I noticed it was slightly
- The transparent item itself as it's being dragged is more visually
complex than it needs to be. I see a rectangular grayed area, plus a
transparent highlighted area offset vertically and horizontally from
that rectangle. Place that over the highlighted background as you drag
it and it's
In Safari the popup window isn't quite wide enough for the power button
to display correctly.
Yes, I have seen this oddity too. But I put it aside to be fixed later. Please
feel free to open a bug report, so it doesn't get forgotten.
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As we're moving from SlimServer to SqueezeCenter we're also going to rename
some of the more important files. Most importantly: the executable files
themselves. If you're running any kind of automatic update script, customized
Windows service or init scripts, prepare for some changes:
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Here's a screen capture in Firefix 2.0.0.7. I see a medium gray
rectancle with light gray border, then the transparent copy of the
highlighted item, all sitting on top of the item that gets highlighted
as you drag over it. Looks like the transparent copy gets shifted to
the left as it's
Are your motherboards dropping like flies? Please tell me what you're
using so that I can avoid them ;-)
The build machines run on vmware, and it's the vmware server's motherboard
which is broken.
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Big, big, bug No.1
No AlienBBC
I doubt this will make you win a transporter - AlienBBC is none of our business
:-). (but I know that there's a beta around somewhere)
But seriously: please don't flood us with fun reports. The idea behind this is
to get the product the best it can be. If we
I also see stray music notes left in various places if I drag the
currently playing item around.
Is this only when you drag the currently playing song or with others, too?
Feel free to submit a bug report - I can't keep track of everything in this
track any more...
Michael
Is it a bug or an unfinished work, I don't have style in help or setting
pages?
Unfinished work. Not really started.
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How can I easily relaunch the wizard to check the correction of bug
#5597?
http://yourserver:9000/settings/server/wizard.html
Am I wrong, or have I seen expanding tree with album titles of an
artist or tracks title of an album in this new default skin?
That's never been part of the new
Michael, do you like us to write bugzilla reports on feature requests
regarding the new skin, or is it better to just post them in this
thread, or maybe both ?
Please file bugs as bug reports. Feature requests? You can file them, but
please clearly mark them as enhancement.
Michael
I would like to request, that you don't redirect to the main SC page
until the entire music collection has been scanned the first time.
As kdf mentioned: please feel free to file enhancement/bug reports on
http://bugs.slimdevices.com
It wasn't until I checked the settings and saw the first
Is IE 5.0 considered reasonable?
I'd personally say no. IE6/FF can be expected on any reasonable OS.
I've tried to catch the disabled JS case, providing a link to the classic skin.
But way outdated browsers which do basically support JS are harder to handle.
I'm against forcing a skin based
That's a product management question that only Logitech can answer, but
for my systems, I argue that IE 6.5 is the most ancient that passes the
'reasonable' test.
I'd agree for IE6.0 :-)
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to install a few extra perl modules, but I'm still not there yet. When
I type sudo ./slimserver I get:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/slimserver$ ./slimserver.pl
Can't locate File/Slurp.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
That's just another module you'll have to install.
Michael
Are there likely to be any probs running this version with SC7?
They must be minor - I'm using it all the time for development.
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I'd personally say no. IE6/FF can be expected on any reasonable OS.
Sounds reasonable. I think 6 is where the bus stops for Win2K, as
XP/newer is required for 7.
You can have IE6 on such antiquities as Windows 9x, don't you? But please don't
update just yet. I'll probably need your help to
Don't you get a few pixel page scroll in Opera when using the mouse
wheel over non-button areas? I mentioned it in your skin thread but am
still noticing w/ the 9/29 and Opera 9.20.
I'm seeing this, too. Don't know yet how to fix it.
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I'm getting a message now. It says to make sure Javascript is enabled
in the browser.
Great, thanks! That's all I wanted to know. Now I'll have to change the wording
of the message.
I couldn't find a toggle for it in 5.0, but enabled
everything and tried restoring defaults.
Don't worry
For testing purposes, I can recommend setting up Virtual PC on a test
I prefer VMware ;-). I'm already using it to test with Vista Ubuntu.
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There's a minor bug with Safari and large album art, too. The play/add
icons appear at the top of the highlighted box rather than inside,
which is fine except that they're not accessible for items in the
topmost row.
That's another odd one... I can see it for _some_ of the covers only. A few
I have been running SS on ubuntu for ages and whenever I upgrade, all my
settings (library location, plugin settings, etc) are always preserved.
I've been trying out SC7 on a Mac mini and have noticed that installing
a new version resets all settings. I don't know whether this is specific
to
Please note that the we've migrated the Mac OSX and Windows installers.
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I'm happy to report on the debian one as and when it gets done - will
the deb installer remove all the old directories and files, and
username/groups as well as adding the new ones?
On Windows we use the existing folders to prevent loss of the preferences etc.
if available. Otherwise anything
I completely uninstalled and deleted the SlimServer directory (from the
9.29 build) prior to installing the 10/1 build.
Did you remove the Program Files/SlimServer folder, too? In which folder
did SC7 install?
I just noticed that we're probably having a problem with machine on which
there
The install wanted to install back into the SlimServer folder anyway
(and I let it) - maybe it is getting it from the registry.
Yep. And that might be the problem with SqueezeTray: it will always look
in a squeezecenter folder. I'll have to fix this. Please file a bug with
all your details.
Why not add build GD for windows builds?
There is a Windows version AFAIK. But not all Linux.
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sorry..perhaps archives in build-modules for those that need it.
otherwise we really need to have a flag per image that does the same
as server resizes art so we can set the height/width tags.
Considering the fact that Jive makes use of artwork a lot, and doesn't
have that much power to the
Still having the problem though. Here's a shot.
Make sure you flush your browser's cache or reload the image manually and force
a refresh. I've been fooled by my various browsers before. And please try again
with the next nightly build (due in about an hour). It should resize client
side if
Michael, is there anything in your skin that relies completely on
server-side resizing for displaying artwork?
Most cover arts relied on it. Andy already helped me fix (some of?) them.
It strikes me that even if
processCoverArtRequest doesn't resize the image (as will be the case for
those
The installation succeeded (complete with a new Uninstalling
Slimserver section before Squeezecenter was installed).
Well spotted!
The following information is part of the event: Database error: Can't
create table '.\slimserver\metainformation.frm' (errno: 121) at
/C:\Program
- ERROR : Database error: Can't create table
'.\slimserver\metainformation.frm' (errno: 121) at /C:\Program
Files\SlimServer7\server\squeezecenter.exeDBIx/Migration.pm line 115.
You don't use McAfee, do you? Do you remember whether you ever had to tell your
AV scanner to ignore some files?
Nope, I use AVG Free.
So do I.
Googled for that error and found the following:
errno 121 means a duplicate key error. Probably the table already exists in
the InnoDB internal data dictionary, though the .frm file for the table has
been deleted. This is the most common reason for getting
On a Windows XP machine, will SC 7 install correctly on top of an
existing SS 6.2 installation? Thanks.
I'd assume yes. But keep in mind that SC7 is still beta, and the installer
has been partly rewritten a few days ago. So there hasn't been much
testing yet. I'll be happy to add you to the
10/4 installed ok on Win2k, but I remember getting an error titled
'Setup' during the wizard: 'Problem uninstalling SlimServer software.
The system could not find the path specified'. Clicked OK and
everything went smoothly from there.
Did you have SlimServer on that machine before? Did you
Safari works fine with nightly 10/4, including the placement of the
play/add buttons. Thanks!
Great! Thanks for the feedback.
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information is part of the event: ERROR: can't load appenderclass
'Log::Log4perl::Appender::File'
Can't locate Log/Log4perl/Appender/File.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
CODE(0x407b254)
That looks utterly wrong indeed. Do you see the above file in your
SqueezeCenter/server/CPAN folder?
Oddly
Yes I have got Log/Log4perl/Appender/File.pm dated 2 Oct - my working
copy.
Can you make sure there's no other version os slimserver running already?
Could you please download the 10-04 version and try again?
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Yes, I had 9/30 IIRC. Used the uninstall .exe and deleted the
Slimserver folder.
I'll have to investigate this. Thanks.
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I had closed my previous SC and exited Squeezetray
And it then reappeared _before_ the installation was over? What version did you
have before?
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Nightly 5 October failed to install - froze before files extracted.
How long did you leave it before you killed it?
Had to do a manual uninstall of 4 Oct version, it then installed
without problem.
Is this expected behaviour for the latest nightlies?
No, not at all. Did 10-04 install
Nightly 5 October failed to install - froze before files extracted.
Do you see a SqueezeTray icon while the installer is frozen? If you shut that
icon down manually, will the installer continue?
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Nightly 5 October failed to install - froze before files extracted.
Seems like http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5640
I think I've fixed the hanger. I've made a new build which is available from
http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/7.0/ - please give it
another try.
As per my previous post 10-04 installed OK after I did a manual
uninstall. I left 10-05 a few minutes before I killed it. Does it do
Ok, that means you had the same issue with 10-04, too?
an uninstall before the install, and does it give any indication that
an uninstall is in progress?
has the download name changed yet? will it?
No and probably.
apt-get install slimserver
which naturally will be changed to squeezecenter RSN.
Renaming packages is a mess because of dependencies. We're working on it,
but haven't decided yet. Any
Is this just a temporary omission?
Yes, I broke it today. As I can't use Pandora anyway I didn't notice it
was missing. Sorry for the inconvenience, it should be back in there in
tomorrow's build.
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Personally, I don't feel 7.0 is ready for my living room setup yet, but
I use it on my development machine and most things work as they should.
I hope you've filed all the outstanding issues as bugs?
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Is this the friendly page you're talking about?
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?SlimServer7Plugins
Can't speak for kdf, but yes, that's what I would have referred to.
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- on my machine, redraw in explorer when the window is resized works
only sporadically. refresh fixes that but it's kinda annoying. is that
the beta or something on my side?
I'm sorry to hear this - I haven't seen this before. I'm assuming you're using
IE7: do you see a yello error flag in
I took the plunge and installed SC7. I'm very happy with the new look
and functionality... so far so good. One thing I miss is using the
shutdownserver plugin and Winoff to put the computer running my SS 6.x
to sleep. Are there plans to add such a functionality to SC7?...
No. But as these
Do you intend to change the edit playlist page to support drag and drop
editing?
Having the best support for the new skin in all places is a target. But that
particular page is not a priority for now. Feel free to add this as an
enhancemente request to bugzilla so we don't forget it.
Also,
In a somewhat related note, when playing a song from a Rhapsody Channel,
the song highlighted in the playlist is always one song behind by the
current song, unless you hit refresh. Note that the playlist only has
one song in it when playing a channel (which i think is likely by
design)
You're doing wonderfully. And it's very beta.
Jim, I'm serious: please report bugs. We can't fix issues we don't know of.
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It seems strange to introduce a dependency on squeezenetwork - the radio
It's not as strange as it first seems to be: this method allows us not
only to provide services which we couldn't make otherwise available in the
open source SC (such as Pandora, Rhapsody etc.). But it allows to easily
Michael, would it be possible to add the mixer icons beside each song in
the current playlist section, for example the MusicMagic mm icon ?
I'm sure it's feasible, but I doubt it will be approved by those who have
the powers: the idea is to have a simple and clean GUI by default. (But
then
As for the center vs. centre problem: Find the file strings.txt in the
SC7 installation folder and replace all occurences of center with
centre and replace the logo image with the attached one if you are so
desperate.
You'd better create a custom-strings.txt file with all these strings, as
I have 3 SB3s - does this mean I can
make them all (or 2 of 3) pllay at the same time and react when I make a
change on one (like skip a song)?
Yes.
Can this be done with the remote or do
Yes: go to Settings/Synchronization, select the player with which you want
to sync your current
When I click install there is up to a five minute wait before anything
actually gets extracted. I've tried various combinations of
uninstalling, installing over, and deleting the Squeezecenter folder,
to the same effect. I'm using Windows 2k.
But does it finally install? At what state of the
Michael, here are the screenshots you requested from the setting pages
using your new wrappers:
Thanks. They look ok.
I entered the direct page url since the SqueezeCenter Settings link in
the default skin just opens the settings pages in the classic skin in a
new window.
No longer: a few
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