Re: [Bf-committers] Embedded Bfont violates GPL

2013-07-17 Thread David Jeske
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:20 PM, IRIE Shinsuke wrote: > Apache 1.1 license is incompatible with the GPL for the similar > restrictions (The derivative works are prohibited from using "Apache" > names without prior written permission). > > http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/License:Apache1.1 FWIW, GP

Re: [Bf-committers] Import Mesh with VertexColor?

2013-07-17 Thread Thomas Volkmann
I see, thanks for the link. If I can't get stuff in and out of Blender, I can't use it in production. Sad but true...I guess I will cry myself to sleep tonight. cheers, Thomas On 07/18/2013 08:17 AM, David Jeske wrote: > it looks like this is a known limitation/bug in the current code.. > thi

Re: [Bf-committers] Embedded Bfont violates GPL

2013-07-17 Thread IRIE Shinsuke
> 1) Fonts are 'libraries normally distrubted with the OS' therefore the > GPL linking to such libraries is excluded from any GPL linking > restriction Did you mean "system library" exception? In this case the exception cannot be applied because: - DejaVu fonts are not major essential components

Re: [Bf-committers] Import Mesh with VertexColor?

2013-07-17 Thread David Jeske
it looks like this is a known limitation/bug in the current code.. this bug was filed-and-closed with a note that it's not implemented. https://projects.blender.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=498&aid=35090&group_id=9 ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-comm

Re: [Bf-committers] Embedded Bfont violates GPL

2013-07-17 Thread David Jeske
Looking through the GNU GPL Info, the situation with fonts is quite murky, partially because the copyright of fonts is quite murky. http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#Fonts "The Open Font License (including its original release, version 1.0) is a free copyleft license for fonts. Its on

Re: [Bf-committers] Import Mesh with VertexColor?

2013-07-17 Thread Thomas Volkmann
I only have the options that Softimage, Max or FBX-converter can export -> thus I tried evrey possible combination with the collada importer, but no vertex colors (if I opened these .dae in SI or Max the colors are there). I even tried to go through Meshlab and go for PLY. Then I got some colors, b

Re: [Bf-committers] Embedded Bfont violates GPL

2013-07-17 Thread David Jeske
I agree with TomM on points one and two. IANAL, but IMO the GPL "further requirements" is to *prevent* burdens being added on the code and distribution. Anti-naming is not a requirement on distributed code but an overly explicit statement of Trademark law (and community convention). Whether we wri

Re: [Bf-committers] Import Mesh with VertexColor?

2013-07-17 Thread Campbell Barton
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 3:52 AM, Thomas Volkmann wrote: > Hi, > it's the time of the year again, when I want to use Blender for some 'real' > tasks at work. And as usual I am having huge problems getting my Data into and > out of Blender. > Last time it was Camera animation that I couldn't get int

Re: [Bf-committers] Hive system

2013-07-17 Thread CoDEmanX
There are two pictures in the ba.org thread, so check it out: http://www.blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?256747-The-Hive-system-version-0-91-released&p=2133217&viewfull=1#post2133217 Looks similar to CryEngine's FlowGraph. Once it will be integrated into Blender and use native PyNodes, t

Re: [Bf-committers] Embedded Bfont violates GPL

2013-07-17 Thread Harley Acheson
Tom, IRIE Shinsuke is not saying that we are not allowed to use, embed, or rename fonts, assuming they have a suitable license. What is being stated is that this *particular* font includes restrictions in its license that make it incompatible with the GPL so it shouldn't be embedded inside a GPL

Re: [Bf-committers] Embedded Bfont violates GPL

2013-07-17 Thread Tom M
1) Fonts are 'libraries normally distrubted with the OS' therefore the GPL linking to such libraries is excluded from any GPL linking restriction 2) Fonts are trademarked - the renaming can be viewed as requiring changes to avoid trademark infringement. People aren't allow to make changes to oth

Re: [Bf-committers] Import Mesh with VertexColor?

2013-07-17 Thread Thomas Volkmann
I know, I should complain less and commit more to the usability of Blender (I had some part in the AfterFX exporter though :) ). But for that to happen, I would need to interact with Blender more often. Which I would if I could use it in production. Which I can't, because I can't get stuff in initi

Re: [Bf-committers] Import Mesh with VertexColor?

2013-07-17 Thread Michael Williamson
Probably not teh answer you want to hear but a few years ago when I was going back and forth between blender and maya I wrote a simple vertex colour ascii format file and exporter's /importers for blender and maya.. sadly I don't have the code and even if i did blender side would be 2.49 so wou

Re: [Bf-committers] FCurve Python update patch

2013-07-17 Thread Tom Edwards
Here's a script: import bpy o = bpy.context.active_object if not o.animation_data: o.animation_data_create() a = o.animation_data.action = bpy.data.actions.new("Test Action") c = a.fcurves.new(data_path="location",index=2) c.keyframe_points.add(3) c.keyframe_points[0].co = [0, 0] c.keyframe_po

[Bf-committers] Import Mesh with VertexColor?

2013-07-17 Thread Thomas Volkmann
Hi, it's the time of the year again, when I want to use Blender for some 'real' tasks at work. And as usual I am having huge problems getting my Data into and out of Blender. Last time it was Camera animation that I couldn't get into Blender*, this time I'm using the vertex-colors when importing a

Re: [Bf-committers] FCurve Python update patch

2013-07-17 Thread Dan Eicher
HI, Do you have some code that shows how this fails because it really should happen automagically, probably just a missing update event somewhere. Dan ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-

[Bf-committers] Embedded Bfont violates GPL

2013-07-17 Thread IRIE Shinsuke
Hi, Blender's default font (Bfont = DejaVu Sans fonts) is embedded in the program binary, so the Bfont is distributed under GPL. However, this GPLed DejaVu fonts still inherit the following hateful restrictions: - The Font Software may be modified, altered, or added to, and in particular the de

Re: [Bf-committers] Hive system

2013-07-17 Thread Thomas Volkmann
Hi, you don't have any screenshots or videos anywhere by any chance? I'm too busy for installing and testing it myself... :/ cheers, Thomas > Sjoerd de Vries hat am 17. Juli 2013 um 16:14 > geschrieben: > > > Hi everyone, > > Just a quick notification that a new (beta) version of the hive syste

[Bf-committers] Hive system

2013-07-17 Thread Sjoerd de Vries
Hi everyone, Just a quick notification that a new (beta) version of the hive system for nodal logic has been released. It now has 100+ pages of documented tutorials and examples. It runs in pure Python on top of the BGE, with Blender 2.65 or later. The GUI is currently external (using Qt), but wil

[Bf-committers] Potential fix for #36086 (Compositor crash with OpenL)

2013-07-17 Thread Thomas Dinges
Hi, I looked into this report today https://projects.blender.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=36086&group_id=9&atid=498 as Jeroen doesn't seem to be available. I cannot reproduce it with my OpenCL capable hardware obviously, but I have an idea why this fails. Possible fix: http://www.pas