[Bf-committers] Importing Assets: FBX VS Collada

2014-04-25 Thread Stefano Corazza
I'm writing this in response to the emails around FBX import topic. Thank you Tom, Bastien, Toni, Jeffrey and Campbell for your input. Bastien I also would like to express my admiration for the reverse engineering work you have done so far. Background: Our company - Mixamo - has worked with FBX

Re: [Bf-committers] Importing Assets: FBX VS Collada

2014-04-25 Thread Ton Roosendaal
Hi Stefano, You say: > We have created a Blender 2.49 plugin to import Collada 1.4.1 Then why not do it for 2.7x? That import API is there since 2009. You are really welcome to pick up this development job and become a module owner for the Collada importer. It's the stakeholder principle. If y

Re: [Bf-committers] Importing Assets: FBX VS Collada

2014-04-27 Thread Stefano Corazza
I'm compiling the key responses on the topic, thanks for the great feedback/comments. Here also some reality checks. Sorry this is long but i'm trying to wrap the topic up. >>Re: baking animation into meshes instead of using a rig: >>This might work for uses related*solely* to still picture & an

Re: [Bf-committers] Importing Assets: FBX VS Collada

2014-04-27 Thread Gaia
On 27.04.2014 22:51, Stefano Corazza wrote: > A negligible fraction of our paying customers is using Blender. Why? > Because you cannot reliably import assets from any other 3D > package/service!! So we are not a "stakeholder" in the strict sense but > would love to help the students/hobbyists/indi

Re: [Bf-committers] Importing Assets: FBX VS Collada

2014-04-27 Thread Chad Fraleigh
Just curious.. Would it not be possible to include a generic sub-process/pipe import/export feature in blender. This would allow an external utility to be run (transparent to the user, once install) which would be given the filename (and/or sent the data via the stdio pipe) and in return it would

Re: [Bf-committers] Importing Assets: FBX VS Collada

2014-04-27 Thread Toni Alatalo
@Chad yes that is possible, it was discussed on IRC the other day and Ton dismissed (I think sanely) due to it being too difficult for people to install the separate converter (for FBX for example) due to the licenses preventing the distribution of the FBX SDK together with Blender. @Stefano seems

Re: [Bf-committers] Importing Assets: FBX VS Collada

2014-04-28 Thread Chad Fraleigh
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Toni Alatalo wrote: > @Chad yes that is possible, it was discussed on IRC the other day and > Ton dismissed (I think sanely) due to it being too difficult for > people to install the separate converter (for FBX for example) due to > the licenses preventing the di

Re: [Bf-committers] Importing Assets: FBX VS Collada

2014-04-28 Thread Campbell Barton
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Chad Fraleigh wrote: > On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Toni Alatalo wrote: > >> @Chad yes that is possible, it was discussed on IRC the other day and >> Ton dismissed (I think sanely) due to it being too difficult for >> people to install the separate converter

Re: [Bf-committers] Importing Assets: FBX VS Collada

2014-04-28 Thread Ton Roosendaal
Hi, I've investigated the FBX SDK license 2-3 years ago, and it is inappropriate to use for many reasons. Just the main reasons: 1) Autodesk wants every user to register at their site, and we are held responsible for that. 2) For libre/open source projects, the end user license is restricted t

Re: [Bf-committers] Importing Assets: FBX VS Collada

2014-04-28 Thread Ton Roosendaal
Hi, > (every Autodesk software exports proper Collada!!) What I heard is the opposite. Natively Maya/Max support(ed?) only broken versions of Collada. You have to install the opencollada plugin to get things to "work". We use opencollada too, which is not in active development much. Bugs dont

Re: [Bf-committers] Importing Assets: FBX VS Collada

2014-04-28 Thread Ton Roosendaal
Hi, BTW: what happened to this? We had Collada projects in 2011/2012 for animation: http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/User:Phabtar/Full_COLLADA_Animation_Support_for_Blender http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/User:Phabtar/Improve_COLLADA_constrained_animations_and_Morph_animation_support. -Ton-

Re: [Bf-committers] Importing Assets: FBX VS Collada

2014-04-28 Thread Gaia
Both projects have been added to the Collada module. -gaia- On 28.04.2014 13:29, Ton Roosendaal wrote: > Hi, > > BTW: what happened to this? > > We had Collada projects in 2011/2012 for animation: > > http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/User:Phabtar/Full_COLLADA_Animation_Support_for_Blender > http:

Re: [Bf-committers] Importing Assets: FBX VS Collada

2014-04-28 Thread Ton Roosendaal
Hi, OK I remember again :) This was for export only - saving Collada files in Blender with animation. I talked to Bastien, and he thinks importing fbx (character with animation) should be possible in not too much time. That only based on symmetrical testing first (blender exports, blender read

Re: [Bf-committers] Importing Assets: FBX VS Collada

2014-05-01 Thread horace grant
hi, https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/open-3d-model-exchange-format-and-exporters-for-popular-software#home http://opengex.org/ just came across opengex and then i remembered this thread. sounds interesting and maybe some of you didn't know about it yet? cheers, horace On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at

Re: [Bf-committers] Importing Assets: FBX VS Collada

2014-05-01 Thread Jürgen Herrmann
Sounds promising. As they have plans to build a blender plugin for opengex this could be a chance. - Ursprüngliche Nachricht - Von: "horace grant" Gesendet: ‎01.‎05.‎2014 15:12 An: "bf-blender developers" Betreff: Re: [Bf-committers] Importing Assets: FBX VS